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Subject: [ DAKOTA-HAM ] Fw: [CQ-Contest] US/VE Hams: QST - Do we have a sayin it?
From: W4EF@dellroy.com (Mike)
Date: Fri Jan 11 08:39:20 2002
Hmmm, must have been the pages stuck together or ripped out. I
could have sworn that they weren't there. I'll have to head back to
the newstand and buy a copy after all - :):).

73 Mike, W4EF ("E"gg on "F"ace)........

----- Original Message -----
From: "Zivney, Terry L." <00tlzivney@bsu.edu>
To: "Mike" <W4EF@dellroy.com>
Sent: Friday, January 11, 2002 5:42 AM
Subject: RE: [ DAKOTA-HAM ] Fw: [CQ-Contest] US/VE Hams: QST - Do we have a
sayin it?


> Gosh, the issue I received in the mail had even the 10 QSO guys listed
> for the 160 CW & SSB contests!  The text review of the contests are
> listed in the front portion, the pages of scores are listed near the
> back, same as for the CQWW and WPX contests.
>
> Terry Zivney, N4TZ/9
> N4TZ@arrl.net
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mike
> Sent: Fri 1/11/2002 3:00 AM
> To: K0HB H. Brakob; MWA Reflector; CQ Contest Reflector
> Cc:
> Subject: Re: [ DAKOTA-HAM ] Fw: [CQ-Contest] US/VE Hams: QST - Do
> we have a sayin it?
>
>
> I don't know Hans, but the last issue of CQ that I picked up
> at the newstand had the top score results of the CQ 160 contest
> listed with the usual writeup and soapbox, but I couldn't for the
> life of me find the detailed score listings. Far as I could tell there
> were no where to be found in that issue. For better or for worse,
> CQ may be one step ahead of ARRL on this.
>
> Does anyone know if the detailed score listings are posted on
> the web somewhere?
>
> Mike, W4EF.........................
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "K0HB H. Brakob" <HHBrakob@email.msn.com>
> To: "MWA Reflector" <mn-wireless-assn@yahoogroups.com>; "CQ Contest
> Reflector" <cq-contest@contesting.com>
> Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 9:03 PM
> Subject: Re: [ DAKOTA-HAM ] Fw: [CQ-Contest] US/VE Hams: QST - Do we
> have a
> say in it?
>
>
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Lee Blaske" <lblaske@pclink.com>
> >
> > >
> > > If a tree falls in the forest, does it make a sound? If contest
> > > results (or DXCC results) aren't published in a paper magazine, is
> it
> > > as if the contest (or DX competition) never happened?
> > >
> > > Even if this material wasn't published in the magazine, it could
> > > still be "published" in the CD ROM archives of QST, couldn't it? A
> > > computer version would also be searchable. Also, there isn't
> anything
> > > preventing someone from printing out this material if they want a
> > > hard copy.
> > >
> >
> > Good point, Lee, but the wrong point in my opinion.
> >
> > Yesterday, in response to some of this traffic, Dave Sumner
> > sent me a nice message in which he explained some of the
> > rationale behind these proposed changes.  Dave is an articulate
> > guy and I have a great deal of respect for him -- in my opinion, he
> > one of best things to ever happen to ARRL.
> >
> > In his message he makes this point.
> >
> >   "We can say with pride that the ARRL is in the forefront
> >    among national membership associations in making
> >    effective use of the Internet. Our commitment of resources
> >    has kept pace with its growing importance."
> >
> > He's absolutely right.  Have you visited the ARRL website?
> > It is GREAT!  The news there is way ahead of QST; it is
> > attractively presented; there seems to be almost no end
> > to the kind of amateur-related material that can be
> > accessed from there; and 98% of it is absolutely free
> > for the asking -- no membership required.  Why even
> > subscribe?
> >
> > Hold that last thought!  There will be a quiz.
> >
> > Now I'm not a lawyer, so I haven't been formally trained in
> > weasel-wording, but I think I can recognize some when I see
> > it.  Our Director tells me that "The whole purpose of
> > posting Contest Results on the Web site was to provide
> > a more useful tool to contesters while addressing expenses."
> > If you read that sort of fast, it almost sounds like a good thing,
> > doesn't it?
> >
> > Remember that thought I asked you to hold?  Keep holding
> > it.
> >
> > Fast forward to a year from now.  Suppose that the BoD
> > has accepted and HQ has implemented the notion that contests
> > can be better reported on the ARRL web site.  Suppose further
> > that you are just newly interested in contesting, and deciding
> > where to spend a little money on a magazine which will support
> > your new interest.  You know that both CQ and ARRL sponsor
> > a lot of contests.
> >
> > Are you still holding that thought?
> >
> > OK, here's the quiz.
> >
> > Will you:
> >
> >   1) Join ARRL to get QST, and get CQ scores from your buddy who
> >     subscribes.
> >
> > or.....
> >
> >   2) Subscribe to CQ and get your ARRL contest info for free off the
> >    ARRL web site.
> >
> > With all kind regards,
> >
> > de Hans, K0HB
> >
> >
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>From K0HB H. Brakob" <HHBrakob@msn.com  Fri Jan 11 17:24:28 2002
From: K0HB H. Brakob" <HHBrakob@msn.com (K0HB H. Brakob)
Subject: [CQ-Contest] Re: Poll on ARRL web site (was contest coverage)
References: <Pine.GSO.4.10.10201110900010.21996-100000@bluestem.prairienet.org>
Message-ID: <00e601c19ac4$d51e8820$2c351fcc@bigguy>


> I was naive enough to think that being a Life Member had some 
> meaning.  It would be interesting to see the results of a similar 
> poll of Life Members, those of us who have more invested in the 
> League and in the hobby.

The BoD already has all the membership money they're going to 
get from Life Members.  

With all kind wishes,

de Hans, K0HB


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