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Re: [CQ-Contest] Re: Partial Exchanges

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Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Re: Partial Exchanges
From: "Lee Hiers" <aa4ga@contesting.com>
Date: Mon, 08 Sep 2003 00:14:10 -0400
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On 7 Sep 2003 at 20:19, Paul O'Kane wrote:

> > Why not play by the rules? In this case you
> > clearly should have been DQ´ed.
> 
> As I was not DQ'd, it seems that the rule is not enforced.

No, it seems you weren't caught.  Didn't you say that your log reflected sent 
reports, 
but you added a narrative comment that you didn't sent a report unless 
requested?

If so, you submitted a false log, and should have been DQ'd - and everyone who 
didn't 
copy the exchange from you should be penalized as well.  But, because of your 
false log, 
it would not be possible to determine who the other offenders were.

> What is the point, or where is the merit or skill, in exchanging 59(9)
> in every contest QSO?  And please don't say "it's in the rules". 

But it is in the rules.  The exchange of CQ/ITU zones is almost as meaningless. 
 So what?

> We all know that RS(T) is not cross-checked in the major
> contests and that all contest logging software defaults to
> 59(9) logged - both sent and received.  

I don't know if that part of the exchange is checked or not, but I doubt it.  
It should 
be.  I get enough non-59(9) reports that it seems it should be checked.  And 
while the 
logging software I use does default to a 59(9) sent exchange, it is trivial to 
change the 
sent report to something else.  I've done it.  If your program can't handle 
this, just 
ask and I can make suggestions for a logging program that can...  ;-)

And FWIW, when I don't receive a signal report and it's part of the exchange, I 
ask for 
it.  And if it's a weak station giving me something I can tell isn't 59(9), 
I'll ask for 
fills until I get it....or don't log the Q.  Why?  Because it's the right thing 
to do - 
it's part of the exchange - it's in the rules.

> Therefore, saying 59 or sending 599 in every QSO is a pointless
> exercise - apart from the fact that, at present, it's required by the
> rules. 

I really don't care if a signal report is required or not...as far as I'm 
concerned you 
can discuss it here all you want, take out full page advertisements in QST, 
whatever 
means of lobbying for change you want...but if you so blatantly violate the 
contest 
rules, you should be DQ'd.  

Simple, huh?

Dang, I hate it when the trolls hook me....

Lee



-- 
Lee Hiers, AA4GA
Cornelia, Georgia



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