To: | "Valeri Stefanov" <wally@el-soft.com>,<cq-contest@contesting.com> |
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Subject: | [CQ-Contest] Re: LZ DX Contest and Unique QSOs |
From: | VR2BrettGraham <vr2bg@harts.org.hk> |
Date: | Thu, 06 Nov 2003 01:11:19 +0000 |
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Valeri:I do not know what wrong you see with Cabrillo example on LZDXC web site, but here is the sample of Cabrillo for WAE SSB which I do not see to be any different from what is shown on LZDXC web site beside the kind of exchange of course : The QSO template for WAE is this: --------info sent------- -------info rcvd-------- QSO: freq mo date time call rst exch call rst exch QSO: ***** ** yyyy-mm-dd nnnn ************* nnn ****** ************* nnn ****** QSO: 3799 PH 2003-03-23 0711 YB1AQS 59 700 DL8WPX 59 001 0000000001111111111222222222233333333334444444444555555555566666666667777777777 1234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789 Neither of the above conform to this. Please consider having LZDXC's apparently preferred QSO template included with others at http://www.kkn.net/~trey/cabrillo/qso-template.html or alternatively, specify a defined QSO template from there that is acceptable. The advantages of Cabrillo are only enjoyable by all if a QSO template for the particular contest is adopted, instead of just Cabrillo in general (or in the case of one contest at least now, changes stuff from http://www.kkn.net/~trey/cabrillo/spec.html into something different). NOT counting unique QSOs for multipliers is a decision of the Contest Committee and if you do not like this rule you may of course choose not to participate in LZDXC. Everyone is free to make his decision. Very true. The problem with not counting uniques in any way is that the participant has no way to do anything about it - compared to bad calls, which we can recognize when we log a call that's obviously busted or realize there is a chance that one is bad when we log it when we're not entirely certain that we've got it right, a unique that will be removed completely from your log or not count as a mult in the case of LZDXC will appear at the time as perfectly valid Q. If I operate LZDXC, VR6MY might call me & then get off the air, as being only 500m away, co-existence is difficult. But VR6BG looses his own country mult because 'MY only works him. Likewise, someone like VP5NT is likely to not be able to work his own country mult & have it count. Alternatively, either the VP5 or VR6 get a weak answer to a CQ that turns out to be some other mult that only calls them because they are a VP5 or VR6. Several minutes go by in the effort to pull the guy through & accurately log his call & exchange. A number of other Qs are lost as S&Pers loose interest in waiting for the Q to finish. At the time, the effort made sense as the Q was a new mult, but at the end of the day doesn't count & to make things worse, two or three good Qs were missed. Somebody from a country with lots of hams will have no problem getting a Q in the log with one of them that will not get thrown out & is less likely to be called by potential uniques that could matter. I'll happily take a hit for a unique that is bad, but denying credit for a unique just because it's a unique isn't on & the result is that I'm not so inclined to get on to begin & I don't think that it's just Bruce & I that feel that way. Everyone looses when activity is discouraged like this. So, I wish you to have a nice time on the beach ,but be careful with the beer :-))). If not beer, there's always wine... ;^) 73, VR2BrettGraham --------------------------------------------------------------- The world's top contesters battle it out in Finland! THE OFFICIAL FILM of WRTC 2002 now on professional DVD and VHS! http://home1.pacific.net.sg/~jamesb/ --------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ CQ-Contest mailing list CQ-Contest@contesting.com http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/cq-contest |
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