Brett the problem for those of us who use CT is CT won't generate a Cabrillo
file for the AA contest. In the header there is this message:
SOAPBOX:
Cabrillo Format not yet implemented for this contest
END-OF-LOG:
CT users are stuck using the manual robot at JARL. I don't blame K1EA for not
including Cabrillo for AA because it's not supported by JARL. I also don't lay
any blame on Trey N5KO. Trey developed what was supposed to be a 'standard'.
Other folks decided they were smarter than the 'standard' and decided to change
it, thereby no longer making it 'standard'.
We are all between a rock and hard place on this issue. We all become aware of
it, every year, because of problems submitting logs to JARL for AA.
MAL N7MAL
BULLHEAD CITY, AZ
http://www.ctaz.com/~suzyq/N7mal.htm
----- Original Message -----
From: VR2BrettGraham
To: cq-contest@contesting.com
Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2005 0:48
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] AA log submission
JF1SQC added:
> > >Though JARL recommend their own format to submit your AA logs,
> > >of course they ALSO ACCEPT CABRILLO and any types of format.
> >
> > Not sure how to do the latter - as UA9CDC pointed out, there is
> > no JARL anything in Cabrillo specification.
><snip bit on CONTEST: field>
>
>Well, there are no definitions...
>It is right to say JARL may accept Cabrillo LIKE logs.
Yes, that is a better way to put it. The word "Cabrillo" clearly implies
the Cabrillo standard.
>I confirmed JARL the ROBOT checks the following fields
>when your Cabrillo LIKE log is received:
> START-OF-LOG: 2.0
> CALLSIGN:
> CATEGORY:
> CLAIMED-SCORE:
> ADDRESS:
> NAME:
> QSO:
> END-OF-LOG:
>If your log contains all of said fields suitably,
>it will be accepted automatically.
There is one other thing - QSO template. If JARL were to indicate
which _existing_ Cabrillo QSO template it would prefer to be used,
then what you describe above is a very practical way for a contest
sponsor to use Cabrillo, even if the Cabrillo specification has
_nothing_ in it for that contest.
>"CONTEST: contest-name" field is not necessary,
>but it is preferable to write such as
> CONTEST: AA-CW
> CONTEST: ALL-ASIA-CW
It is _not_ preferable, as there is _nothing_ in the specification for
the CONTEST: field for All-Asia contest.
This is where Cabrillo goes wrong - nobody, absolutely _nobody_
can say what Cabrillo is other than N5KO. Little, although well-
meaning deviations from the specification such as the above are
not helping.
Perhaps JARL could try to get All-Asia into the Cabrillo spec.
It would be interesting to see if they could do it - but if not, then
work _with_ the existing spec - use only things as they are defined.
Leaving out what is a mandatory field like CONTEST: goes against
the specification, but IMHO this is better than really twisting things
by making up stuff up like a contest name or some of the things
other contest sponsors do.
Thanks for your QSP from JARL, Sei.
73, VR2BrettGraham
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