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Re: [CQ-Contest] Is it a time to change rules for HQ stns inIARUcontest

To: ua9cdc@r66.ru
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Is it a time to change rules for HQ stns inIARUcontest ? - correction
From: "wally" <wally@el-soft.com>
Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2006 19:55:50 +0300
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Hi Igor,

It seems that point of view on this matter could be different among hams.
I am not a guy who wants to win using all the loopholes in formal rules.

However, I am afraid IARU HQ activity will end up after 2 -3 years with only
5 HQ stns working just their fellow hams from their own country. The rest of
us will be on vacation sitting next to the nice pool and drinking beer while
shareing a good company of friends of ours :-).

Enjoy the type of contesting you think is right. Fortunately CQWW contests do
not favour such behaviour and we still can have more or less a level field
within Europe in these ones.

73, Valeri LZ2CJ

--- "igor sokolov" <ua9cdc@r66.ru> написано:
> Wally and all,
> This is not a coincidence but rather or... :)
> The web site that you refer to has a policy to keep news on the front page
> for 48 hours. Then news that are no longer news go to archive where you can
> still see them but the link is different. This message  was actually posted
> by me. The message is still there. Just go to archives.
> Anyway the subject you have raised deserves discussion.  Here are my 2
> cents...
> I think that was 5B4AGN who said here that we need to know the objectives
> that contest sponsors had in mind when designing rules for the contest.
> IARU is pretty unique just because there is HQ competition. HQ station
> represents national amateur radio organization and therefore has access to
> its organizational resources. IARU in Europe  recently turned into
> competition of national  ham radio organizations That has first been seen
as
> such by DA0HQ team but quickly followed by others. IMHO that has made the
> contest different from others and therefore very interesting.
> Different countries use different advantages to win. That includes things
> like greater ham radio population, better organization, geographical
> advantages or sometimes smaller ham radio population and low level of
> everyday activity. For instance if 4L0HQ will set up 12 well equipped
> stations with good ops they would have very good chance of winning HQ
> competition despite of pretty small ham population.
> There can not be level field in HF contesting unless it is something like
> WRTC (and even WRTC is not that level field that we dream about). Just use
> the resources available to you and do your best. On the positive side IARU
> involves many non contesters who see it as 5B4AGN said  "flag waiving
> party". Some of these one contest participants may get interested and we
may
> see some of them later in other contests. May be that was the idea behind
> the IARU rules regarding HQ operation. Then it seems to have worked.
> 
> 73, Igor UA9CDC
> 
> > I must admitt my Russian is not as good as my English :-( .
> > I appologize for mistake - 1200 SP stations were NOT calling
> > from a single station, but this does not underscores the fact that
> > out of  17 600 QSOs - 8000 QSOs were made with SP stations
> > by  SN0HQ team in 2005.
> >
> > By the way the link I've just given in my previous message
> > have just dissapeared from the server www.qrz.ru
> > Coincidence or ... ?
> >
> > Wally LZ2CJ
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Valeri Stefanov" <wally@el-soft.com>
> > To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
> > Sent: Saturday, July 15, 2006 8:28 PM
> > Subject: Is it a time to change rules for HQ stns in IARU contest ?
> >
> >
> > > Dear Fellow Contesters,
> > >
> > > I would say the time to change rules for HQ stations in IARU contest
has
> > > come.
> > > It is crystal clear ,if one reads the link below( of course, if he can
> > > understand
> > > Russian :-) )
> > >
> > > www.qrz.ru/webnews/3441.htm
> > >
> > > In IARU 2005 -
> > > It is NOT normal DA0HQ to have over 9000 DL QSOs out of total of 19
000.
> > > It is NOT normal to have SN0HQ been called by 1200 different SP
> callsigns
> > > who used JUST ONE STATION to make these QSOs. 528 of these 1200
> > > SP operators worked SN0HQ on all 6 bands form JUST ONE STATION.
> > > SN0HQ had 8 000 QSO's with SP stations ,too !
> > > (info is translated from the link in Russain given above )
> > >
> > > As a normal person I would  NOT call this a fair competition although
> > > accroding to currently printed rules of IARU contest this is NOT a
> formal
> > > rules violation.
> > >
> > > If we have the same approach in LZ we would ask 1/3 of all 3000 LZ
> > > hams to go to our central radio club station and to stand on a queue
> > > to work LZ7HQ station on 6 bands  :-))).
> > >
> > > I would kindly suggest to organizing committee of IARU contest
> > > to take action and stop this nonsense.
> > > At this time I can not suggest myself a solution of this problem,but
> such
> > > actions by some HQ stations definetly makes efforts of other HQ
stations
> > > useless.
> > >
> > > 73,  Wally LZ2CJ
> > > one of LZ7HQ operators in IARU 2006
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
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