Hi Valeri,
> It seems that point of view on this matter could be different among hams.
> I am not a guy who wants to win using all the loopholes in formal rules.
Neither am I. But I like the idea of National Organizations competing with
one another. I do not think DA0HQ used loopholes in the rules. They just
used their available organizational resources and did it very well.
> However, I am afraid IARU HQ activity will end up after 2 -3 years with
only
> 5 HQ stns working just their fellow hams from their own country. The rest
of
So far the trend is different.Therefore I think your scenario will not work.
HQ stations activity resulted in higher general activity in the contest.
Germans showed that well planned organizational work can do a lot.They
showed that their national organization is really strong. That does not
preclude other organizations to do what they did.
> us will be on vacation sitting next to the nice pool and drinking beer
while
> shareing a good company of friends of ours :-).
If you install radio near the pool and make 20-30 QSO in the contest in
between few bottles of the bear your enjoinment may be even greater and more
relative to ham radio. On the other hand why don't you try to analyze what
advantages your ham radio league can use and then plan and perform HQ
station operation and attempt to win. I assure you it can be pretty
challenging. There is no need to cheat or look for loopholes in the rules.
There are many other opportunities based on modern technology that can be
used.
>
> Enjoy the type of contesting you think is right. Fortunately CQWW contests
do
> not favour such behaviour and we still can have more or less a level field
> within Europe in these ones.
I do not think CQWW contest rules create level field even for Europe. You
can once try to operate from say northern Sweden during geomagnetic storm
and compare your impressions with those from Bulgaria.
I enjoy CQWW as well as many other contests (Russian DX most of all since
lately). Anyway most of these contest are pretty similar and mainly single
op oriented. IARU in the part of HQ stations is the only one that allows MM
distributed and that makes it unique and therefore interesting. Radiosport
to a great extend based on technology. This HQ category opens new
challenging horizons. I assure you It is not trivial to work as a team when
team members separated by long distance and do not see each other. It is not
trivial to try and make the whole national ham radio organization to work as
a team.So far Germans simply does it better then others
73, Igor UA9CDC
> 73, Valeri LZ2CJ
>
> --- "igor sokolov" <ua9cdc@r66.ru> написано:
> > Wally and all,
> > This is not a coincidence but rather or... :)
> > The web site that you refer to has a policy to keep news on the front
page
> > for 48 hours. Then news that are no longer news go to archive where you
can
> > still see them but the link is different. This message was actually
posted
> > by me. The message is still there. Just go to archives.
> > Anyway the subject you have raised deserves discussion. Here are my 2
> > cents...
> > I think that was 5B4AGN who said here that we need to know the
objectives
> > that contest sponsors had in mind when designing rules for the contest.
> > IARU is pretty unique just because there is HQ competition. HQ station
> > represents national amateur radio organization and therefore has access
to
> > its organizational resources. IARU in Europe recently turned into
> > competition of national ham radio organizations That has first been
seen
> as
> > such by DA0HQ team but quickly followed by others. IMHO that has made
the
> > contest different from others and therefore very interesting.
> > Different countries use different advantages to win. That includes
things
> > like greater ham radio population, better organization, geographical
> > advantages or sometimes smaller ham radio population and low level of
> > everyday activity. For instance if 4L0HQ will set up 12 well equipped
> > stations with good ops they would have very good chance of winning HQ
> > competition despite of pretty small ham population.
> > There can not be level field in HF contesting unless it is something
like
> > WRTC (and even WRTC is not that level field that we dream about). Just
use
> > the resources available to you and do your best. On the positive side
IARU
> > involves many non contesters who see it as 5B4AGN said "flag waiving
> > party". Some of these one contest participants may get interested and we
> may
> > see some of them later in other contests. May be that was the idea
behind
> > the IARU rules regarding HQ operation. Then it seems to have worked.
> >
> > 73, Igor UA9CDC
> >
> > > I must admitt my Russian is not as good as my English :-( .
> > > I appologize for mistake - 1200 SP stations were NOT calling
> > > from a single station, but this does not underscores the fact that
> > > out of 17 600 QSOs - 8000 QSOs were made with SP stations
> > > by SN0HQ team in 2005.
> > >
> > > By the way the link I've just given in my previous message
> > > have just dissapeared from the server www.qrz.ru
> > > Coincidence or ... ?
> > >
> > > Wally LZ2CJ
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Valeri Stefanov" <wally@el-soft.com>
> > > To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
> > > Sent: Saturday, July 15, 2006 8:28 PM
> > > Subject: Is it a time to change rules for HQ stns in IARU contest ?
> > >
> > >
> > > > Dear Fellow Contesters,
> > > >
> > > > I would say the time to change rules for HQ stations in IARU contest
> has
> > > > come.
> > > > It is crystal clear ,if one reads the link below( of course, if he
can
> > > > understand
> > > > Russian :-) )
> > > >
> > > > www.qrz.ru/webnews/3441.htm
> > > >
> > > > In IARU 2005 -
> > > > It is NOT normal DA0HQ to have over 9000 DL QSOs out of total of 19
> 000.
> > > > It is NOT normal to have SN0HQ been called by 1200 different SP
> > callsigns
> > > > who used JUST ONE STATION to make these QSOs. 528 of these 1200
> > > > SP operators worked SN0HQ on all 6 bands form JUST ONE STATION.
> > > > SN0HQ had 8 000 QSO's with SP stations ,too !
> > > > (info is translated from the link in Russain given above )
> > > >
> > > > As a normal person I would NOT call this a fair competition
although
> > > > accroding to currently printed rules of IARU contest this is NOT a
> > formal
> > > > rules violation.
> > > >
> > > > If we have the same approach in LZ we would ask 1/3 of all 3000 LZ
> > > > hams to go to our central radio club station and to stand on a queue
> > > > to work LZ7HQ station on 6 bands :-))).
> > > >
> > > > I would kindly suggest to organizing committee of IARU contest
> > > > to take action and stop this nonsense.
> > > > At this time I can not suggest myself a solution of this problem,but
> > such
> > > > actions by some HQ stations definetly makes efforts of other HQ
> stations
> > > > useless.
> > > >
> > > > 73, Wally LZ2CJ
> > > > one of LZ7HQ operators in IARU 2006
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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