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Re: [CQ-Contest] Putting the spoon into the pot: WPX - who is on first?

To: "Randy Thompson K5ZD" <k5zd@charter.net>
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Putting the spoon into the pot: WPX - who is on first?
From: Jim George <n3bb@mindspring.com>
Date: Sun, 01 Mar 2009 13:43:15 -0600
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KR2Q is right on target.

I understand the overall philosophy of not concentrating the "wealth" and 
encouraging more activity through broader recognition. More recognition 
plaques are good.
But it seems "unseemly" (pardon the double usage) for one to receive a 
"winner" plaque for something he/she didn't win. In this example, TI5N won 
NA and the World, KR2Q won USA, not NA, and N7IR was #2 in the US, not the 
US winner. Each of them did a super job.

How about this-providing hardware to be admired, and also accurate. Plaques 
are a big deal, more recognition than a paper certificate for most people.

TI5N receives a plaque stating Winner, World and NA.
KR2Q receives a plaque stating Winner, USA
N7IR receives a plaque stating #2 USA

The key element is that they all get a plaque, which is a big deal. Plaques 
stand out on walls. These plaques will be admired and provide an accurate 
recognition for three noteworthy achievements for sure.

Jim N3BB


At 06:05 PM 3/1/2009 +0000, you wrote:
>This is not an issue specific to the WPX Contest.  I believe all CQ Contests
>(WW, RTTY, WPX, 160) follow this convention of only awarding one plaque per
>entry.
>
>The goal of the plaque program is to motivate and provide recognition.
>
>There are 3 "levels" of plaques (World, Continent, Country).  If an entry
>was allowed to win multiple plaques, then one great effort from an
>advantaged location could take all 3 levels and leave other strong efforts
>unrecognized.  Perhaps all the plaques should not say "Winner", but again,
>that's they way it has been done historically.  The policy has been to
>always award an entry with the highest level plaque they were eligible for.
>
>I am interested in hearing from the contest community if this policy should
>be changed (specifically for the WPX Contest).
>
>What we have done for WPX in 2009 is change the definition of the North
>America plaques so that they only apply to stations outside the USA and
>Canada.  This accomplishes two desirable results: 1) it encourages activity
>from North American stations outside USA/Canada, and 2) the winner of the
>USA or Canada for a category will always be the winner of the country
>plaque.
>
>The list of plaques currently sponsored for the upcoming WPX contests can be
>seen at http://www.cqwpx.com/plaques.htm.  (We are still looking for a few
>more sponsors.)
>
>To follow the example of my friend Jim White (K4OJ - SK), it is only 27 more
>days until the CQ WPX Phone Contest!
>
>
>Randy Thompson, K5ZD
>
>Director - CQ WPX Contest
>
>email: k5zd@cqwpx.com
>web: www.cqwpx.com
>
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: cq-contest-bounces@contesting.com
> > [mailto:cq-contest-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of
> > kr2q@optimum.net
> > Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2009 11:37 PM
> > To: cq-contest@contesting.com
> > Subject: [CQ-Contest] Putting the spoon into the pot: WPX -
> > who is on first?
> >
> > Just got my March 2009 CQ mag with the cw WPX results.
> >
> > YIPPIE!!  I won a trophy!!
> >
> > BUT WAIT A MINUTE.....what's this I see?
> >
> > TI5N wins for the world (congrats) and get the WORLD trophy.
> >
> > I win for USA, but since TI5N got the WORLD trophy and now
> > I'm 2nd place in N.A., I get the NA trophy.  But I didn't win
> > NA, I won USA.  So why would I get the NA trophy?
> >
> > And ELSE do I see?  Because I got the N.A. trophy, N7IR, who
> > is 2nd place USA, (an amazing feat from AZ) wins the USA trophy.
> >
> > HUH??????
> >
> > This made no sense to me 30 years ago in CQWW when W1WY
> > thought that it would be equitable to not only do this sort
> > of thing, but make the previous year's winner ineligible to
> > win the trophy again.  So what happened?  Station "A" won in
> > year 19xx.  In year 19xx+1, they won again, but could bit win
> > the trophy, so station "B" got the trophy....and the trophy
> > was engraved with the word WINNER.  But it gets better.  In
> > year 19xx+2, Station A again won, Station B again came in
> > 2nd, but since they were both "ineligible," Station C got the
> > trophy, which again was engrave with WINNER.  This nonsense
> > was stopped long ago.  The winner is the winner, period.
> >
> > So what would I do in this case?  TI5N wins the world AND
> > wins N.A.  He should get TWO trophies.  This concept of
> > "being fair" works well in kindergarten and first grade...not
> > contesting.
> >
> > OK...taking a step back and now handing the spoon off.
> >
> > de Doug KR2Q
> >
> >
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