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Re: [CQ-Contest] Do all contest participants need to follow the rules?

To: 'Michael Coslo' <mjc5@psu.edu>, 'CQ-Contest Contest' <cq-contest@contesting.com>, Sandy Taylor <ve4xt@mts.net>
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Do all contest participants need to follow the rules?
From: Julius Fazekas <phriendly1@yahoo.com>
Reply-to: phriendly1@yahoo.com
Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 09:32:07 -0700 (PDT)
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What I'm reading implies that there is a misunderstanding between "participant" 
and "contestant"/"competitor". Anyone can participate

Julius Fazekas
N2WN

Tennessee Contest Group
http://www.k4ro.net/tcg/index.html

Tennessee QSO Party
http://www.tnqp.org/

Elecraft K2/100 #4455
Elecraft K3/100 #366


--- On Mon, 3/16/09, Sandy Taylor <ve4xt@mts.net> wrote:

> From: Sandy Taylor <ve4xt@mts.net>
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Do all contest participants need to follow the 
> rules?
> To: "'Michael Coslo'" <mjc5@psu.edu>, "'CQ-Contest Contest'" 
> <cq-contest@contesting.com>
> Date: Monday, March 16, 2009, 11:46 AM
> I think Mike is on-target.
> To me, the question this raises is: Does the existence of a
> contest grant to
> sponsors the right to control the behaviour of everybody on
> the band?
> 
> To me, the answer is absolutely not.
> 
> The rules of a contest apply only to those who voluntarily
> submit to them by
> entering a competitive log. (By competitive, I am referring
> to anyone who
> submits a log as anything other than a checklog.)
> 
> 73, Kelly
> Ve4xt
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: cq-contest-bounces@contesting.com
> [mailto:cq-contest-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of
> Michael Coslo
> Sent: March-16-09 7:56 AM
> To: CQ-Contest Contest
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Do all contest participants need
> to follow the
> rules?
> 
> 
> On Mar 15, 2009, at 6:11 PM, James Duffey wrote:
> 
> > Jim - You wrote:
> >
> > "Last December I had the occasion to drive from
> Cleveland to
> > Arlington, VA, on the Sunday of the ARRL 10 meter
> contest. To make the
> > drive more interesting I put the 10 meter HamStick on
> the car, and to
> > avoid additional confusion used a different callsign
> in each state.
> > Nobody seemed to mind the extra qsos in their log, and
> several guys in
> > Florida seemed really happy to work the District of
> Columbia on SSB in
> > the last hour of the contest."
> > This is another example of the circumstances that
> prompt my question.
> > Those who do follow the rules can receive some benefit
> from someone
> > who does not. In this case additional multipliers, and
> extra QSOs in
> > the log. Are only those who submit a log expected to
> follow contest
> > rules?
> 
> Let me put on the adjudicator hat here for a minute.....
> 
> 
> Jim was operating during a contest in which the mode he was
> operating  
> was not a valid mode to submit a log.
> 
> So the question is was it acceptable for him to have
> QSO's with Ops  
> who WERE operating in the contest.
> 
> In trying to boil this down to the simplest one sentence
> question it  
> becomes "Are Operators who are planning on submitting
> a log allowed to  
> have QSO's with Ops who are not?"
> 
> There are no rules to this effect. Furthermore,  Jim not
> only was  
> operating ethically, but he was performing a service to
> those Ops who  
> were officially operating in the test.
> 
> Other's opinions may differ, but it is hard for anyone
> to argue that  
> less QSO's are better.....
> 
> 
> -73 de Mike N3LI -
> 
> 
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