If you are a big gun, there is unlikely to be a better rate achieved
than in run mode ( caveat it's obviously easier in ES than in the USA),
but if you're not (and I am decidedly not- 400w and 2els at 30ft) then
even from a " rare" location like ES or GW ( populations are about the
same btw) you can easily get blown away by the chaos at the off. Thus it
is often more productive to go S&P for an hour or so, when even with
aforesaid modest station, 90 p.h. is by no means unrealistic since
almost every station is fresh meat. More than that is pretty difficult
because of the twin overheads of (a) Physical tuning and finding of
stations and (b) getting beaten to the draw by a bigger gun. If you are
a big gun then (b) is not a problem, and if you are using cluster or
skimmer, then (a) is minimised. In those circumstances I think 120 p.h.
is quite realistic but probably not sustainable for too long.
Once the initial hubbub has died down however, there is no substitute
for being in run mode ( two exclusive S&P stations will never even hear
each other), even for the small pistol ( not derringer N.B.) in other
than very common locations, since rates of 180 p.h. are achievable
hour-on-hour in the majors such as CQWW or ARRL DX ( particularly the
latter), and short term rates of 240 p.h. are not uncommon. The latter
rate is not sustainable for the small pistol however since he is not
generating sufficient callers for the perfect pile up- viz no blank
periods at all.
My comments refer specifically to CW as I have no experience of SSB (
does it work at all for the small pistol?)
73
Clive
GW3NJW
Pete Smith wrote:
> Nope, you're absolutely right, Doug. I asked the original question
> in two parts, recognizing that distinction, and feel that I'm getting
> a lot of useful info.
>
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> At 04:39 PM 6/3/2009, kr2q@optimum.net wrote:
>
>> Stop the music!
>>
>> I think the posted comments are referring to two separate "rates."
>>
>> One is "pure" S+P (no SO2R) rate. The other is S+P rate on the 2nd
>> radio while running
>> on the first.
>>
>> Randy's comment about 87 in the first hours is for PURE S+P...NOT
>> for S+P while SO2R running.
>>
>> Is that phenomenal? Depends....on other factors, some already
>> mentioned. Maybe yes,
>> maybe no.
>>
>> In the ARRL CW test this year, I had a 73 hour while "pure"
>> S+P...but I was QRP (on 20m).
>> The band was hot and everybody was "fresh meat." Makes things a lot
>> easier....as does
>> a great QTH.
>>
>> Anyhow, my point is that contributors need to define which "S+P
>> rate" they are referring to.
>>
>> And if I am the only one who thinks that folks were discussing "two
>> different" S+P rates, I
>> apologize for this posting.
>>
>> de Doug KR2Q
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