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Re: [CQ-Contest] 2010 WPX Rule Change / Circle rules

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Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] 2010 WPX Rule Change / Circle rules
From: "Albert Crespo" <f5vhj@orange.fr>
Reply-to: Albert Crespo <f5vhj@orange.fr>
Date: Thu, 3 Dec 2009 07:59:54 -0000
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How many club members attend meetings  when there is a 275 Km radius 
limitation? The concept of people joining a club and having face to face 
interaction is somewhat dated in this age of the Internet where you can 
become closer to people by SKYPE around the world then the neighbor across 
the street. A  club could have it's meetings  with a webcam. This is not as 
preferable to actually being there, but  better then  missing the meeting 
outright. This is common activity in the commercial world, why not for radio 
clubs?
Perhaps the concept of "virtual" clubs  or associations  does make sense in 
the 21st century and the old concept of club competition should  be 
discarded. Past participants in WRTC events could form a club and compete 
against  other  clubs. What difference does it make that they do not live 
nearby to each other?

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From: "Sandy Farley N7RQ" <n7rq@yahoo.com>
Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 7:41 PM
To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>; "Randy Thompson K5ZD" <k5zd@charter.net>
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] 2010 WPX Rule Change / Circle rules

>
> Randy, SA and Oz aren't the only folks having issues with the 275 km 
> radius limitation.  Arizona has only a handful of fairly-dense population 
> centers.  The rest of the state is sparsely populated, but large enough so 
> that some Arizona resident members of the Arizona Outlaws Contest Club do 
> not fit within the club's defined circle, and their scores are excluded 
> from events bound by this finite limit.
>
> We're aware that some clubs "move" their circle's center based on 
> participation in various contesting events, but our Board of Directors has 
> been reluctant to adopt a similar policy because it gives the unmistakable 
> odor of rule-bending for the purpose of winning.  That's a place we don't 
> want to go.  If our circle boundary was the state boundary, no such 
> conflict would exist.
>
> Please do give consideration to population densities in regions where the 
> density is very high or very low.  Surely there is a way to weight and 
> amend certain regions of the US and other countries that have this 
> problem, so that there's an equitable way to apply such a rule.
>
> Thank you for your work on this and other issues.  It's very much 
> appreciated.
>
> 73/88, Sandy Farley N7RQ
> Secretary/Treasuere/Webmistress
> Arizona Outlaws Contest Club
> http://www.arizonaoutlaws.net
>
> --- On Tue, 12/1/09, Randy Thompson K5ZD <k5zd@charter.net> wrote:
>
> Club Rule
>
> The club rule includes a distance limitation that all club members are
> within a 275 km radius circle. This rule change was actually added last 
> year
> and is a copy of the CQWW club rule. We received numerous comments from
> South America and Australia that the population density of contesters was
> too low in their areas to enable them to meet this restriction.  Since the
> main purpose of the club competition is to promote more activity in the
> contest, we are sensitive to this issue.  At the same time, we are seeing
> some clubs in other parts of the world claiming "virtual" members who live
> far away from the local club area. We feel there needs to be some 
> definition
> of a club in order to enable meaningful competition.
>
> One suggestion was to waive the distance limitation for clubs in South
> America and Oceania.  We are uncomfortable with introducing this kind of
> geographic bias in the rules, but seek comments from WPX participants in
> other parts of the world. This change will NOT be made for the 2010 rules.
>
>
>
> Randy Thompson, K5ZD
>
> Director - CQ WPX Contest
>
> email: k5zd@cqwpx.com
> web: www.cqwpx.com
>
> Blog: http://www.cqwpx.com/blog/?p=51
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