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Re: [CQ-Contest] Unauthorized Posts on DX Cluster are NOT KY1V

To: CQ-Contest@contesting.com, David Kopacz <david.kopacz@aspwebhosting.com>
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Unauthorized Posts on DX Cluster are NOT KY1V
From: Rudy Bakalov <r_bakalov@yahoo.com>
Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2011 06:41:38 -0700 (PDT)
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Since the objective is wide adoption then the simpler the user verification=
 process the better.=A0 One solution is to simply verify the email of the p=
erson signing up for the cluster by asking a confirmation URL, PIN code, et=
c. just like the registration process required to subscribe to this reflect=
or.

Rudy N2WQ
--- On Mon, 4/25/11, David Kopacz <david.kopacz@aspwebhosting.com> wrote:

From: David Kopacz <david.kopacz@aspwebhosting.com>
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Unauthorized Posts on DX Cluster are NOT KY1V
To: CQ-Contest@contesting.com
Date: Monday, April 25, 2011, 6:03 PM

If the guys that write the DX Cluster software are willing to modify it to 
include registration and authentication, I will volunteer to host the database 
that supports it free of charge. I am sure there are a few others out there 
that would be willing to host a replicated database in other regions around the 
world so we have a system that is secure, scalable and available 24/7/365.

Individual cluster operators would be held accountable for regulating the 
abuses through their system, including web access, and isolated if they don't 
take action against those abusing through their node(s).

It would take some collaboration to design the system. The most difficult part 
would be verification of users. With registration, authentications and 
verification (license), abuses could be isolated by IP addresses to narrow down 
and eventually catch/eliminate the few bad apples.

Registration could be as simple as creating a username and password attached to 
your call sign. Photocopies of each amateur's license could be uploaded to the 
server for verification purposes. The system could start on the honor system so 
as not to burden anyone person or group with the verification process and leave 
it to the database administrators/hosts/leagues/clubs/etc to isolate and 
disable access to abusive users.

It's an idea, but I think without the software developers of clusters getting 
on board first, it's a dead idea.

In the mean time, know that I don't participate in cluster use unless I am in a 
contest. I'm old school, I like to tune the dial.

David ~ KY1V


-----Original Message-----
From: cq-contest-bounces@contesting.com 
[mailto:cq-contest-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Chuck Chandler
Sent: Monday, April 25, 2011 6:52 AM
To: CQ-Contest@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Unauthorized Posts on DX Cluster are NOT KY1V

I agree completely.  The whole issue of bad spots (for whatever reasons...
cheerleading, bragging, begging, or the gamut of malicious intent) degrades
what should be a prime resource for DX'ers and contesters.

Is there an alternative?  Is there some software that a DX/contest club
could fire up to create their own local secure cluster, with provisions to
only link to other, also-secure clusters?

I haven't heard of any.  Perhaps all we are waiting for is an alternative
choice?  I know nothing of how hard a job that would be, but somebody
somewhere must be itching for a project that will truly make a difference to
our community.

73 de Chuck, WS1L

On Sun, Apr 24, 2011 at 1:19 PM, Luc PY8AZT <py8azt@dxbrasil.net> wrote:

> Clap, clap, clarp.
>
> It´s time to make our network secure, DXCluster included!
> Or more and more abuses will come alive making the DXCluster less and
> less useful.
>
> 73, Luc
> __
> PW7T Team member
> WRTC.2010 Brazilian Team Leader
> PY8AZT (also PT7AG, PX8C, ZZ8Z, ZY7C)
> LABRE, ARRL, CWJF & Fortaleza DX Group Member
>
> 2011/4/24 David Kopacz <david.kopacz@aspwebhosting.com>:
> > I have received a number of recent emails regarding comments made via
> > the DX Cluster using my call sign KY1V.
> >
> > I would like to "clear the air" regarding these posts on the cluster.
> >
> > =================================================
> > THESE COMMENTS ARE NOT MINE. I DID NOT MAKE THEM.
> > =================================================
> >
> > I DO NOT post comments on the DX Cluster about people. In fact, I have
> > rarely posted to the DX Cluster. I don't even post during contests. I
> > almost exclusively use the cluster to receive spots while contesting.
> >
> snip
> >
> > Until such time as the Amateur Radio community decides that they will no
> > longer tolerate such abuse and refuse to participate in using an
> > unsecured system that allows such blatant abuses to continue, the
> > problem will likely continue endlessly.
> >
> > It doesn't have to be this way. Isn't it time for a change?
> >
> > I hope to get back into radio soon, until then, happy DX'ing and
> > contesting.
> >
> > 73,
> >
> > David ~ KY1V
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-- 
73 de Chuck, WS1L

Oak Grove, MS - EM51
ws1l@comcast.net
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