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Re: [CQ-Contest] Opinion: SO-unassisted should not be using CW Skimmer

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Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Opinion: SO-unassisted should not be using CW Skimmer
From: David Gilbert <xdavid@cis-broadband.com>
Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2011 19:58:10 -0700
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Hi, Mark.

Yes, I am aware of all that, but I still don't think the original 
comment was actually trying to address a rule issue, particularly 
becauseeliminating unassisted categories covers a lot more ground than 
just CW Skimmer ... it also would include allowing packet or internet 
spotting clusters and possibly even having a second op in the shack 
feeding you spots from a second receiver..

Regarding the various opinions on what constitutes "sport" in 
contesting, that also could extend to other areas besides callsign 
spotting as dozens of previous reflector threads have flogged.  Super 
Check Partial, Call History files, logging programs that insert the 
exchange for you, and memory keyers could all (depending upon one's 
personal perspective) be viewed as taking at least some of the 
individual "sport" out of contesting.  That's why I keep trying to make 
the point that the "sport" in radiosport for any particular contest is 
precisely and exclusively whatever the contest sponsor says it is ... 
period.  It is not based upon what we used to be fond of.

73,
Dave   AB7E


On 11/29/2011 7:31 AM, Mark Bailey wrote:
> Hi Dave:
>
> Yes.  Some contests, including WAE, don't have "unassisted" categories.
> There are people
> advocating the elimination of "unassisted" categories in the other contests.
>
> 73,
>
> Mark, KD4D
>
> On 11/29/2011 12:13 AM, David Gilbert wrote:
>> I'm confused regarding the point here.  In what major contest is the use
>> of CW Skimmer allowed for unassisted categories (other than in Blind
>> Mode)?  Isn't all of that already covered in the rules?  Kind of like it
>> not being legal to have three people rotating through the chair while
>> claiming single op.  Or not being able to run a KW while claiming QRP.
>> Did I miss something?
>>
>> Dave   AB7E
>>
>>
>>
>> On 11/28/2011 6:12 PM, Radio K0HB wrote:
>>> In my opinion, Jim has it exactly right.
>>>
>>> 73, de Hans, K0HB
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Jim Reisert AD1C
>>> Sent: Monday, November 28, 2011 12:34 PM
>>>
>>> I don't care if you built the skimmer setup yourself without any
>>> outside help, and you're only getting spots from your own skimmer.  I
>>> don't even care if you wrote the software yourself!  Taking a break
>>> from running to find stations to work is an important skill which
>>> separates the great S/O unassisted stations from the good ones.  In my
>>> opinion, having hardware/software to do this for you takes the "sport"
>>> out of Radiosport.
>>>
>>> 73 - Jim AD1C
>>>
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