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Re: [CQ-Contest] [FCG] CQ WW Rules and SCP

To: "Pete Smith N4ZR" <n4zr@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] [FCG] CQ WW Rules and SCP
From: "Hans Brakob" <kzerohb@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2013 19:36:06 -0700 (PDT)
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Point me to the info on "24 Hour Classic"

On Mon, Jun 24, 2013 at 7:47 PM, Pete Smith N4ZR <n4zr@contesting.com>
wrote:

> Too bad you feel that way, Hans - why not join me in the 24-hour Classic 
> category, where us amateurs can have a lot of fun and maybe even win a 
> plaque.
> 73, Pete N4ZR
> Check out the Reverse Beacon Network at
> http://reversebeacon.net,
> blog at reversebeacon.blogspot.com.
> For spots, please go to your favorite
> ARC V6 or VE7CC DX cluster node.
> On 6/24/2013 10:53 AM, Hans Brakob wrote:
>> "Much of the discussion about the recent CQWW rule changes have been by 
>> casual ops trying to understand what some of the "pro level" rules mean and 
>> their impact. The CQWW rules will be set within a week and then we go on 
>> with discussion about other minutiae."
>>
>>
>> ​Steve, we are dismissed.  There are "pro" rules and amateur rules, and to 
>> us amateurs, it's merely minutiae.
>>
>>
>>
>> ​You're right, by the way.  You'll still here me playing exuberantly (to 
>> steal a phrase from K1ZZ) but my last log has already arrived at CQWW, just 
>> like my last subscription check went to Rich Mosesen a few years back.
>>
>>
>>
>> ​ 73, de Hans, K0HB
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jun 24, 2013 at 8:23, Randy Thompson K5ZD 
>> <k5zd@charter.net="mailto:k5zd@charter.net";>> wrote:
>> Contests have many levels of interest all running on the same course.  The 
>> guys at the top are serious, passionate, and always pushing the rules.  The 
>> more casual ops are just in it to have fun.
>>
>> The art for the contest sponsor is to balance the needs of both groups.  
>> I.e., make rules that define where the boundaries are, but not so complex 
>> that it puts off the casual entrants.
>>
>> Much of the discussion about the recent CQWW rule changes have been by 
>> casual ops trying to understand what some of the "pro level" rules mean and 
>> their impact. The CQWW rules will be set within a week and then we go on 
>> with discussion about other minutiae.
>>
>> The spirit of the rules is pretty simple. Work people and have fun. Always 
>> try view the contest rules through that lens first.
>>
>> Randy K5ZD
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: CQ-Contest [mailto:cq-contest-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of
>>> steve.root@culligan4water.com
>>> Sent: Monday, June 24, 2013 2:05 AM
>>> To: cq-contest@contesting.com
>>> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] [FCG] CQ WW Rules and SCP
>>>
>>>   We are inexorably moving closer to the day when this becomes more
>>> trouble than it's worth. Some of the ideas recently presented to "fix"
>>> contesting are fairly dramatic. Why in the world would 99% of the
>>> participants agree to to all that trouble? Face it, in any given contest
>>> how many of us are really competing anyway? 15, 20 guys? We're
>>> participating and that's about it. Yes, you can "compete" against your
>>> friends or against yourself but you don't have to follow any body's rules
>>> to do that. I can see the day soon when we ignore the "rules", stop
>>> reporting scores, and stop sending in logs. Get on and enjoy the
>>> activity, work a bunch of people, and then when you're done shut it off
>>> and walk away. And if some contest sponsor wants to sift through an SDR
>>> recording of a major contest and try to dredge my signal out of the muck
>>> to decide whether I sent an extra dit in a guys call, I won't be very
>>> worried about it.
>>>
>>> 73 Steve K0SR
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Hans Brakob [mailto:kzerohb@gmail.com]
>>> Sent: Sunday, June 23, 2013 04:15 PM
>>> To: 'Jack Haverty.'
>>> Cc: 'Steve Sacco NN4X', cq-contest@contesting.com
>>> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] [FCG] CQ WW Rules and SCP
>>>
>>> Hold it! TIME OUT!​Third party referees in the cloud? UN observers in blue
>>> construction hard hats sent to selected toy radio stations to monitor for
>>> weapons of mass obstruction? Massive broadband receivers in the heavens
>>> recording the movement of every whisper of RF between Dc and daylight?
>>> Have we come to that?​Let's cut down through all the inflated egotistical
>>> importance of this hobby pastime and examine what we're really doing on
>>> those long radio weekends.​It really is no more complicated (nor
>>> important) than this.A bunch of boys and girls turn on their amateur
>>> radio toys and try to talk to all of each other (or at least most of each
>>> other) before they fall asleep, or the GMT clock strikes midnight. They
>>> keep a record as they go, and then send that record in to be compared
>>> with all the other boys and girls records. He/she with the most clicks
>>> wins.​How about we just simplify the rules to that, and leave all the big-
>>> brother-in-the-cloud paranoia tasking to the NSA.​73, es GL in the
>>> Contest,de Hans, K0HB/4ID
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