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Re: [CQ-Contest] CQ WW SSB

To: Edward Sawyer <SawyerEd@Earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] CQ WW SSB
From: <ve4xt@mymts.net>
Date: Sat, 18 Oct 2014 09:02:32 -0500
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I empathize with Andy, however, it seems worthy to point out that more than 
2,000 people have been killed, more than 4,000 wounded and nearly a million 
people have been displaced in this conflict. A conflict that, arguably has 
brought Russia and the west closer to conflict than anything since the Cuban 
missile crisis.

And whether some people in Crimea get to play in a radio contest is a key 
issue? Perspective, please. 

The United Nations, supported by 100 countries, has refused to recognize 
Russia's clearly illegal occupation of Crimea and condemned Russia's continued 
hostility towards Ukraine. How could CQ come to any other decision?

And even if the vote in Crimea wasn't coerced at gunpoint, how is the vote 
there any different than Ukraine's decision to reject Putin puppet Yanukovych 
as president?

73, Kelly
ve4xt

Sent from my iPad

> On Oct 18, 2014, at 8:47 AM, "Edward Sawyer" <SawyerEd@Earthlink.net> wrote:
> 
> We feel very sorry for the bad position that politics has put our friends in 
> Crimea in.  The best way for CQ and ARRL to stay out of politics is to stick 
> with the existing rules and let the political groups stabilize.  When they 
> do, the rules make sense, when they are unstable, obviously they cause pain.
> 
> 
> 
> I will personally make it a point to seek out Crimea stations and work them 
> to show my personal support for their currently painful situation.
> 
> 
> 
> Ed N1UR
> 
> 
> 
> From: Martin Monsalvo [mailto:monsalvo@gmail.com] 
> Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2014 12:09 AM
> To: Andy Kazantsev
> Cc: Edward Sawyer; CQ-Contest
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] CQ WW SSB
> 
> 
> 
> With all due respect and with all the appreciation I feel towards long term 
> friends in both Russia and Ukraine.
> Crimea is not part of Russia, despite the fact that it is being illegally 
> annexed to it.
> The international community as a whole has pronounced in favor of Ukraine 
> soverignity which certainly includes Crimea. Why should CQ pronounce 
> otherwise?
> Accepting operations from Crimea with russian calls ipso facto does not 
> contribute to contesting nor to amateur radio at all. It would only be a sign 
> that our hobby doesn't care about International Law and the Independence of 
> Nations.
> I feel for those Ukrainian stations in Crimea that are being forced to sign 
> russian callsigns, but this is way above contesting and  cannot be acccepted, 
> since it is the outcome of illegal actions that no one, but Russia government 
> endorses.
> 
> Vy 73,
> Martin, LU5DX
> 
> El 17/10/2014 21:58, "Andy Kazantsev" <uu0jm@bk.ru> escribió:
> 
> Hi, Edward.
> 
> Вы писали 18 октября 2014 г., 0:39:53:
> 
> 
> 
>> Andy, Personally, I am sorry for your situation.  And sorry that you are
>> harmed right now.  Is it not possible for you to operate using the Ukrainian
>> callsign?  I think that I would have worded the CQ announcement differently
>> but came to the same conclusion. I believe my statement would be that CQ
>> follows the DXCC and WAE country rules and also requires that a station
>> identify themselves with the DXCC/WAE country that they are in.  The DXCC
>> follows the US State Dept recognized county or territory list which I have
>> to assume still calls that location Ukraine.  So if you signed from Ukraine,
>> I don't see there being a problem.  I am assuming that WAE has no separate
>> country status for Crimea.
> 
> I currently live in Russia. And shall comply with the laws of Russia.
> According to these laws, I got a call UB7K  and worked in several
> contests, including the CQ WW RTTY (4 place World, raw scores).
> Also we work CQ WPX CW 2014(UA7K) and WAE CW and SSB 2014.
> If I'm going to continue to work, only this callsign. It is my firm belief.
> I'm not asking for a separate territory of Crimea! Why mix radio with 
> politics?
> This message sponsors CQ caused a storm of dissent among contesters in
> Crimea. Many are ready for these competitions. And then a week before the 
> competition,
> we know that all of our training in vain.
> It is very sad and does not honor the CQ magazine  and event organizers.
> Nevertheless it I will work in this competition, because I compete primarily 
> with each other.
> Last year, I set a record 16 zone and was going to beat this year it.
> 
> 73! Andy UB7K
> ex. UU0JM, UU7J , K1I (WRTC 2014)
> 
> 
> 
>> 73
> 
> 
>> Ed  N1UR
> 
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