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Re: [CQ-Contest] Announcing the North America SSB Sprint-boycott from "M

To: David Siddall <hhamwv@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Announcing the North America SSB Sprint-boycott from "MAR"
From: AC0W <ac0w@charter.net>
Reply-to: ac0w@charter.net
Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2015 19:54:12 -0500 (EST)
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My suggestion on the change in N1MM was made after operating a contest that allowed DC as a mult. However, every time I entered DC it was automatically changed to MD. This then required a manual edit of the log to change it back to DC, which to me is unacceptable. Guess if you think it is acceptable to have MD entered for the DC mult then we could ask them to change it back.

 Bill
AC0W

On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 3:36 PM, David Siddall wrote:

OK, let's focus on NAQP as you suggest.   You are, after all, one of the NAQP managers.

In late 2010 or early 2011 W3DQ and others asked the NAQP managers to start recognizing that DC is not part of MD.  I don't believe that you were the NAQP SSB manager at the time, but . . . .

For NAQP, in 2011 the N1MM contest logger suddenly was changed to no longer equate DC with MD automatically, like it long had done.  Why? According to the N1MM website, the reason was that in 2011 you requested that the feature be removed from N1MM.

This, I take it, was the unofficial NAQP response to Eric's and others' request.

The result is that DC operators have had to choose between misstating their QTH (arguably a violation of NAQP Rule 10 that the exchange must consist of "o perator name and station location")  OR DC operators had to spend an inordinate amount of time during the contest helping some of their contacts log the QSO in N1MM, lessening everyone's score in the confusion.  

Nevertheless, in several of the recent NAQPs some of the DC contesters have continued to participate, but no one knows because they have to be logged incorrectly as being in MD.

That's the history of NAQP and DC.  

73,  Dave K3ZJ



On Sun, Jan 25, 2015 at 1:13 PM, AC0W < ac0w@charter.net <javascript:parent.wgMail.openComposeWindow('ac0w@charter.net')> > wrote: Suggest you check the contest rules before throwing a contest into this discussion. A check of the NAQP rules has multipliers as provinces, states and NA countries outside of US and Canada. The issue of combining Canadian provinces to create a multiplier in NAQP does not exist. So it should not be part of this discussion.

Bill
AC0W


Paul,

Exactly right!  Sections as multipliers in SS are consistent, but NAQP and
Sprint multipliers are inconsistent, illogical, and appear based merely
upon an individual's (or individuals') whims that lack geopolitical reality
or knowledge with no understanding of incentives.

Being geopolitically consistent and correct -- as are all other contests
with which I am familiar -- has no downsides.

Take the example of Mexican states, which are multipliers in the 10 meter contest.  Great!  I never hear many of them, but I got educated as to their political boundaries, any of them that I find helps my score, and there are
more XE stations in the contest than before.  I have the same chance of
finding them as anyone else in my geographic area. There's no downside,
whether or not they are active most of the time -- and they present contest
expedition opportunities for the adventurous.

D.C. is the same -- what a surprise when W1AW/3 showed up in the last ten meter contest in addition to KE3X, N8HM, W3HAC, W3DQ & NN3RP -- all in D.C.

73,  Dave K3ZJ

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