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Re: [CQ-Contest] Why send 5nn ?

To: Mats Strandberg <sm6lrr@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Why send 5nn ?
From: Saulius Zalnerauskas <ly5w.sam@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2015 23:21:32 +0300
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No no no,
I like it, we need this.
But in which form?
ENN, SNN, 5NN, 599?
Here is a question.
Last IARU contest I liked SNN, some very smart contester did it.
I will do this in EUHFC and WAEDC.

Also about CQ TEST calling.
I hate (HATE) those callers who are using CQ TEST YA0YA YA0YA TEST
I am loosing time, after CALL almost all giving back answering. But guy
still continue with this STUPID "TEST" on the end.....
And gets only my "5W", not full call.

On my favorite Team (LY2W) we almost every tiem use - CQ LY2W LY2W
or another my Team (II9P) - we use TEST II9P II9P

It is only few seconds to remove this in CW Messages, why not doing?

Last weekend here in Lithuania was LY Hamfest. And we did as usual Morse
Runner competition.
And again this "TEST" on the end.

How about specially invalid exchange?
One old contester from Lithuania every time sending HNNAH, but not 5NN A5
in CQWW.
Other very known HAM from Slovenia sending THT, not TEST.... but all peolpe
know this :)

Still no idea about "TU" or "EE" on the end of QSO.
I like both reports, but there are sometimes problems with "EE".

73, Sam LY5W (five is not 9)



On Thu, Jul 30, 2015 at 8:18 PM, Mats Strandberg <sm6lrr@gmail.com> wrote:

> Why not remove a useless ENN, 5NN or 599 at all?  RAEM contest has already
> realized this, adding a relatively complicated long/lat message instead.
>
> I do not "buy" the argument that 5NN is a "get ready" message....
>
> Remove RS(T) at all from test messages. Useless addition that gives no
> value.
>
> Time to think "out of the box" and focus on what is important - and what is
> not...
>
> My 2 cents ...
>
> 73 de RM2D Mats
>
> On Thursday, July 30, 2015, Mark van Wijk, PA5MW <pa5mw@home.nl> wrote:
>
> > Oh yes there is:   the '5' is currently replaced by 'E'  where the RST
> > exchange becomes effectively  "ENN"
> >
> > I believe this is pushing it beyond the reasonable and I will not use it.
> > Next the copiable 5NN is commonly easy recognized as the short version of
> > 599.
> > Stations sending ENN on weak signal level will create unclear message
> > transmissions as the single 'E' offers less momentum.
> > It is several big guns using ENN now instead of 5NN
> >
> >
> >
> > 73 Mark, PA5MW
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message----- From: n1ix@n1ix.com
> > Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2015 5:27 PM
> > To: 'Jukka Klemola'
> > Cc: 'Cq-Contest'
> > Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Why send 5nn ?
> >
> > I don’t think there is a cut number for 5. Otherwise, I’m sure it would
> be
> > used.
> >
> >
> >
> > I have a friend who’s name is ANN she really has a difficult time being
> > understood
> >
> > in contests where she has to send her name and RST.
> >
> >
> >
> > Dave N1IX
> >
> >
> >
> > From: Jukka Klemola [mailto:jpklemola@gmail.com]
> > Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2015 11:21 AM
> > To: n1ix@n1ix.com
> > Cc: Cq-Contest
> > Subject: Re: Why send 5nn ?
> >
> >
> >
> > Why people send abbreviated 9 but 5 is not abbreviated?
> >
> > I am not Vulcan, but there is no logic.
> >
> >
> >
> > 73,
> >
> > Jukka OH6LI
> >
> >
> >
> > 2015-07-30 3:06 GMT+03:00 <n1ix@n1ix.com>:
> >
> >
> > I had 9 stations copy my QTH as NS not NH.
> > I would think that DX stations would know that N1IX 5NN NS is
> impossible!!
> >
> > ...
> > Dave N1IX
> >
>
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