Well, there are those pesky things called "rules", which generally state
that the contacts you make and log should be the result of your own
efforts **during the contest** ... that last part being applicable for
both assisted and unassisted categories. That's where I see the
inherent conflict when using databases like SCP and Call History files,
at least if you're going to submit a log.
Dave AB7E
On 7/31/2015 3:28 AM, OZ1BII Henning wrote:
I think a Contest mainly is "what YOU make it to be"
If YOU enjoy making lots of contacts in short time, then its Contest.
How all the other participants are making these contacts are none of YOUR
business as long as YOU get YOUR contacts and YOU have fun.
On Thu, Jul 30, 2015 at 6:07 PM, <kr2q@optimum.net> wrote:
OK, I admit it. I have NEVER been a proponent of SCP (or that ilk).
So I'll once again (been many years now, so it's time) ask why SCP is
allowed for non-assisted entries (or at all).
For me, either you copy the call, zone, SN, name, SEC, etc yourself or
you don't.
So much has been automated during a contest, just what is left for the
entrant to do that
demonstrates actual contest skill? Not even copy the call sign?
At the heart of each contest QSO is getting the call and exchange right.
If you have to rely
on a database (EG SCP), was that really a valid QSO?
Going back ages, I recall a DX ham (Riki) who used "a database" on 160m.
When challenged,
he said that the database only helped him to confirm the call he had
copied. Really? If you knew you had copied it, why need to "check?"
Of course, the answer is that it wasn't "copied," but needed to be
teased out. I mean, it's a long way from most eastern part of zone 20
to the rest of the world.
More recently, a well-known contester that I have always respected,
gave me an example of what he felt was an "appropriate use" of SCP.
"Let's say I'm on 75m and the band is noisy and I just can't confirm
the other guys full call. If I look at SCP, I can see a list of calls
and I can say, 'Is your call XY1ABC?' and if he says YES, then I know
I have a good contact." Huh? For me, this is exactly why SCP should
NOT be allowed.
THAT was a "good"
QSO? You never copied his full call. You took an total GUESS base on
SCP. What if he didn't say YES? Then what? No QSO or "take a
chance?"
Other arguments include, "Why should I be penalized for not having as
good a memory for call signs as K1AR (or your favorite contester)?"
Just because he can remember 10,000 calls doesn't mean I'm not as a
good a contester. So I use SCP to make up for that aspect.
And I suppose he also runs 10KW to "make up" for atmospheric losses.
Really, there is NO legitimate reason to use SCP during a contest
unless you just want to have FUN also sending the guys name during a
contest which does not require that you copy his/her name.
It always is disappointing to me to see the URGENT plea's to share
your log file so that SCP can be updated.
SCP is just pure BS for the true (honest) contester. Too late? Can't
get the genie back into the bottle? Yes, I know. But that doesn't
mean it is right.
de Doug KR2Q
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