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Re: [CQ-Contest] NAQP Power Level

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Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] NAQP Power Level
From: W0MU Mike Fatchett <w0mu@w0mu.com>
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2016 09:25:35 -0700
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If I am not in the contest, ie I don't care about the rules or a certificate the only rules that apply to me are the ones written, in my case, by the FCC.

The rules only apply to those competing. Everyone else can do as they please.

It would be great for the contest if more people got on. How would you know if they are running high, low, med, qrp power? You don't just work em and move on.

When did CQ-Contest become a Florida HOA where old farts sit around and create problems?

On 1/11/2016 3:21 PM, KB8N via CQ-Contest wrote:
What started this whole discussion was that Pat apparently wanted  to test
out some kind of new setup.  Why would he want to use high  power when he
had the opportunity to test his setup against a level playing  field running
low power?
There is an aspect to this that I feel needs to be more fully addressed.
When a high power station plays in this contest, that  station has a greater
opportunity to hold a run frequency and maintain a  pileup.  To me,
operating high power in NAQP for whatever reason hurts  the competition among 
the
contestants whose scores count. In effect, the high  power station deprives
legitimate competitors a slice of the  spectrum.
You can read the rules two different ways. One interpretation is that it
is OK to run high power and submit a check log, the other interpretation is
if you run high power you will be penalized by not being able to submit a
log  for scoring purposes.
If I owned an amplifier, I wouldn't want to make a lot of noise at the
expense of others slugging it out using low power.
Paul K5AF In a message dated 1/11/2016 2:09:37 P.M. Central Standard Time,
xdavid@cis-broadband.com writes:


Personally, I don't have a problem with non-entrants using high  power in
the NAQP.  I do, however, have a problem with the boorish  use of
"entitlement" to belittle those who do.  It's a simple minded
generalization almost every time people use it.

As an aside, how  exactly does running high power help anyone with their
power line  noise?

Dave   AB7E


On 1/11/2016 8:45 AM, W0MU  wrote:
Seems like the entitlement age has now reached  contesting.  You can't
work someone because you think he is  running HP and that is his
problem and not yours?  Maybe he has  S9 powerline noise or was not
listening in your  direction.

Nobody forced you to "waste" a lot of time trying  to work this guy.
How many mults and contacts did you miss by not  turning the dial.
Isn't one of the skills of contesting know when you  can and can't get
through and when to move on?

Me me  me me me me ...I need the mult, I was calling, I wasted.

This  is contesting.  A Significant portion of the contestants really
  aren't.  They are passerby's simply operating by the terms of their
licenses.  The airwaves belong to the public not the  contest.

I thought I had heard it all.

  W0MU

Here's a simple example of why we care from last  night on 80M. In S&P
mode, I was calling a station who had a  considerably better signal than
many from the east coast I had  worked, but I wasted a lot of time trying
to get his  multiplier.

Another example -- I'm running S&P and  calling another station I need as
a mult and a high power station  wins the jump ball. He's 12 dB louder by
virtue of his power amp,  not his antennas or distance.

73, Jim K9YC
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