Hi Barry, others ..
2016-04-05 16:50 GMT+03:00 Barry <w2up@comcast.net>:
...
Bottom line, CW was created as a "language" for humans. So what if a
> computer can copy better? Jukka, did you type your email by hand or use
> voice to text?
>
I would not trust any voice2text application.
Just like I do not really trust the spots, either!
Like yesterday I was looking at spots for VK0EK and FT4JA.
The creativity we see in those spots is beyond imagination.
Barry W2UP
>
73,
Jukka OH6LI
> On 4/5/2016 06:28, Jukka Klemola wrote:
>
>> Software CW copying capability is judged - once again.
>>
>> To judge human vs SW capability to copy CW with a more realistic data set,
>> please take a look at Dayton 2009 Pile Up contest results.
>> http://www.kcdxclub.com/pileup2009.html
>>
>> Skimmer won.
>> The year was 2009.
>> Already back then, Skimmer was copying 61 calls while the best human
>> participants copied 51.
>> Then, look at who the human participants are on the score listing.
>>
>> I think we can be satisfied with the result and declare the winner of the
>> human vs computer CW copying competition.
>>
>> Looking forward from 2009:
>> My understanding is the software has developed by some amount after that
>> 2009 event.
>> The human evolution takes much longer time to get another call from the
>> recording.
>>
>> If you are interested in accelerating the human development, click
>> http://www.no5w.com/PileUpNetPractice.php
>>
>>
>> The service from KCDXClub and NO5W is excellent.
>>
>>
>> If you wonder about Skimmer, outside a laboratory grade environment, in a
>> real shortwave use scenario:
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bDVdwWfiAZw
>>
>>
>> 73,
>> Jukka OH6LI
>>
>>
>> 2016-04-05 14:07 GMT+03:00 Gordon LaPoint <gordon.lapoint@gmail.com>:
>>
>> Hank,
>>>
>>> ...
>>
>> NO software is as good as a person, but both of the above can help a
>>> newcomer get started. Both of the above use the rig in CW mode with the
>>> audio out to the computer sound card.
>>>
>>> Gordon - N1MGO
>>>
>>> On 4/4/2016 11:01 PM, Hank Greeb wrote:
>>>
>>> I'm trying to help a relative newcomer to set up his rig for the MiQP.
>>>> He's just learning CW, we note that FLdigi can send and decode CW. I've
>>>> used FLdigi for Hellschreiber and PSK-31, but never with trying to
>>>> decode
>>>> CW under contest conditions. From what I've encountered in MiQP and
>>>> similar contests, there's seldom a condition where "good ears" couldn't
>>>> work with a recevier 2 KHz bandwidth or so, which these software
>>>> packages
>>>> generally use with a rig in the SSB mode.
>>>>
>>>> Has anyone had experience with using it, or another "digital" software
>>>> package, in a simple CW contest like MiQP? It would help his
>>>> multiplier
>>>> count if he could make some CW contacts with an aid like FLdigi.
>>>>
>>>> Please don't "put this question down" - I'd like to encourage the
>>>> newbies
>>>> to contesting to give it their all, and use all the technology
>>>> available.
>>>>
>>>> 72/73 de n8xx Hg
>>>> QRP >99.44% of the time
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