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Re: [CQ-Contest] NS NCCC sprint rules

To: Bill Haddon <haddon.bill@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] NS NCCC sprint rules
From: Ken K6MR <k6mr@outlook.com>
Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2016 21:47:33 -0700
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Bill:

The rules page says “Rules modified to NAQP rules”, but the mult list as 
written uses Sprint mults for VE. This means MAR, not separate provinces.

Maybe “NA Sprint multipliers” should say “NAQP Multipliers” ?

Does WriteLog use the NAQP mults for VE?

Ken K6MR


From: Bill Haddon<mailto:haddon.bill@gmail.com>
Sent: Friday, August 5, 2016 16:51
To: Mike Smith VE9AA<mailto:ve9aa@nbnet.nb.ca>
Cc: Cq Contest Reflector<mailto:cq-contest@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] NS NCCC sprint rules

Hello Mike:

NB is an NS /NS Ladder multiplier.

We neglected to change the multiplier list, which was formerly tied to NA
Sprint mults plus a few others.

So for NS and NS Ladder:. .all NAQP multipliers.   But add DC and 9Y, 9Z';
P4; PJ0-4, PJ9.

See http://www.ncccsprint.com/rules.html

73 Bill N6ZFO

On Fri, Aug 5, 2016 at 1:26 PM, Mike Smith VE9AA <ve9aa@nbnet.nb.ca> wrote:

> Hi Hal ol' buddy!
>
> Always good to see your call here, whether it's email, from Ohio, The
> Netherlands, France, or remote in Japan.
>
> I'll see about contacting Bill/ZFO and get some kind of official word, as
> well......Maybe I'll just CC him on this.(done-hope u don't mind)
>
> It's no secret I don't personally like "MAR" as a multiplier, as we are
> some
> of the very very few guys in North America that don't get to play for the
> home team in a few select contests, but are lumped in together by
> convenience due to MAR being our RAC section. (MAR is a holdover from the
> old days when there wasn't enough ham population in NB, NS or PEI to even
> count on one hand.  )
> Just by tradition and because folks locally are like that, nobody has ever
> petitioned to separate the sections.  Weird, as there are RAC directors and
> deputy directors in the Provinces.
> Non contester (local) hams could care less.  . . . but I digress.
>
>  Slowly over the years, most contests have converted to all provinces, but
> not all. (even the SSB Sprint folks listened)
>
> If I wanted to be a real jerk (and believe me, I have thought about it) I
> would show up in ARRL SS, C-QP and the Sprints and give NB as my mult and
> refuse to give MAR (hi hi)
> I'd rather not do that if I went to do a few casual NS NCCC Sprints though.
> Those are good guys.  I don't think after all I have been through I have a
> hope in heck of changing the ARRL's mind until RAC changes MAR, but a lot
> of
> contests have changed and perhaps NCCC-NS will too....we'll see what Bill
> says.
>
> Anyways, I'll be on Sat nite flying the NB flag as always, though if condx
> are punk, I likely won't do a full effort.
>
> dit dit
>
> Mike VE9AA "NB"
>
> Mike, Coreen & Corey
> Keswick Ridge, NB
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Hal Offutt [mailto:hal@japancorporateresearch.com]
> Sent: August 5, 2016 8:59 AM
> To: Mike Smith VE9AA
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] NS NCCC sprint rules
>
> Hi Mike,
>
> I am not involved in the management of the NS but I am a regular
> participant.  Bill N6ZFO is the guy in charge.  I'm sure he will get in
> touch with you.  He has not been on Thursday nights for the last couple of
> weeks so he may be on vacation.  Let me know if you don't hear from him or
> someone else from NCCC about this before long.
>
> I doubt very much if the participants in NS would mind if you send NB.
> And I'm absolutely sure that everyone would welcome your
> participation.   However, the logging software will not count your mult
> if you send NB.  At least Win-Test, the program I use, will not, and I
> assume the others are the same.  No doubt when it was set up, they just
> copied the NA Sprint program.  I just tried it and the Win-Test does not
> recognize NB.
>
> So it looks like a long-term campaign to change the NA Sprint rules is
> needed.  If this happens, the NS rules should automatically follow.  For
> starters, why don't you join the NCCC-Blue reflector (most NS participants
> subscribe) and express your opinion there.  I'm sure that many of the guys
> will support you.
>
> We have a lot of fun every week and if you would join us, it would be a
> real
> plus.  CW speeds get real fast (last night I set my speed at 46
> WPM) and it is a real rush and good training for general contesting.
>
> Please join us!
>
> I agree 100% with you about MAR and I can't understand why this fiction
> hasn't been retired a long time ago.   SS uses ARRL sections, not states
> and provinces, so it is a little more complex.  I wonder how NL got to be
> its own section.  Is this population based?  I suppose the guys in NT
> (another fiction) feel the same as you guys in "MAR"?
>
> I hope to see you in the NAQP CW this weekend.  At least this contest is
> consistent in counting states and provinces.
>
> 73, Hal W1NN
>
>
> On 8/4/2016 4:00 PM, Mike Smith VE9AA wrote:
> > Can any of you that might be able to speak officially for this contest
> > answer a very simple question for me pse?
> >
> >
> >
> > If I wanted to partake in the NS contests late Thursday nights would I
> > be able to sign "NB" as part of my exchange
> >
> > or would that defer to the NA Sprint rules which oddly park all VE1,
> > VE9 & VY2's in this fictitious place known as "MAR"?
> >
> > (only a very few contests worldwide still use this outdated multiplier
> > by the way) SS, C-QP and the Sprints.
> >
> > Everyone else (even NAQP CW) has realized we're in real Provinces up
> here.
> >
> >
> >
> > From: http://www.ncccsprint.com/rules.html
> >
> >
> >
> > Exchange
> >
> > .         Serial number
> >
> > .         Name
> >
> > .         QTH (US State, incl. HI, Canadian Province, NA Prefix or "DX")
> >
> >
> >
> > Your rules do say "Province"...but then you go on to say use Sprint
> rules.
> > Which is it?
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> >
> >
> > Mike VE9AA (most definitely in the very real Canadian Province of "New
> > Brunswick") - NB
> >
> >
> >
> > dit dit
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Mike, Coreen & Corey
> >
> > Keswick Ridge, NB
> >
> >
> >
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