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Re: [CQ-Contest] R: WAE PHONE CONTEST FREQ, To be or not to be?

To: Matt IZ3EYZ - Matteo Marzilli <iz3eyz@virgilio.it>
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] R: WAE PHONE CONTEST FREQ, To be or not to be?
From: "Lyubomir Slavov, OR2F" <on8lds@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 7 Sep 2016 22:43:34 +0200
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Hello Sam,

there is a non-written rule, we should never expect to meet so clear as it
is pronounced :

*"WORK FIRST - WORRY LATER !"*

So, in accordance with the contest rules, you shouldn't run CQ in those
windows, but if you get someone there - do not hesitate to pounce over.

Afterwards, if the "bad boy" goes DQ or gets any other penalty as a result
of the Committee's decision - either this will not affect your result,
either it will affect the results of all his correspondents there.

And versa - if you skip any possible QSO within the mentioned segments, you
just reduce your own result :-)

Good luck !

73,
Leo / OR2F

On 7 September 2016 at 10:53, Matt IZ3EYZ - Matteo Marzilli <
iz3eyz@virgilio.it> wrote:

> Sam,
>
> it would be wise if you first check the examples you publish for your
> theories the next time.
>
> If you work YV4YC on 7127 @04.10z and HC2AO on 7106 @04.20z and get QTCs
> from them on the same QRG, it doesn't mean all their previous QSOs they
> send
> back to you through QTCs took place on that QRG as well.
>
> For example this is taken from my WAE SSB 2015 log and you can easily check
> QRGs through independent sources (ie. CLX spots):
> QSO:  7174 PH 2015-09-12 0113 IR4X          59  0018   YV4YC         59
> 002
> (came back to my CQ)
> QSO:  7065 PH 2015-09-12 0307 IR4X          59  0109   HC2AO         59
> 049
> (by spot)
>
> Of course I don't know about the other Europeans and I couldn't care less
> but my QSOs with these stations took place within the allowed contest
> segments unlike you state something else.
>
> 73
>
> Matt
>
>
>
> -----Messaggio originale-----
> Da: CQ-Contest [mailto:cq-contest-bounces@contesting.com] Per conto di
> Saulius Zalnerauskas
> Inviato: martedì 6 settembre 2016 19.41
> A: Cq-Contest
> Oggetto: [CQ-Contest] WAE PHONE CONTEST FREQ, To be or not to be?
>
> Hi everybody,
>
> To be or not to be-that is the question:
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/To_be,_or_not_to_be
>
> This weekend another WRTC event. WAE DX Phone Contest. Very interesting and
> of course very important contest for those, who are qualyfying to be
> http://www.wrtc2018.de/index.php/en/qualification/selection-criteria-2
>
> Some Team Leaders now has guaranteed, some are with question. And this one
> can make a much difference in final tables.
>
> Let's read WAE Contest rules
> http://www.darc.de/der-club/referate/dx/contest/waedc/en/rules/ . You can
> see *SSB*: 3650-3700; 7050-7060; 7100-7130; 14100-14125; 14300-14350 kHz.
>
> Try to imagine himself if You are one of those qualifiers. Station
> (multiplier) calling CQ Contest on 7.128 kHz. Everybody working them.
> Because - station is multiplier, so everyone is cheater?
>
> Read what happen if You doing this:
> Violation of the rules of the contest or unsportsmanlike conduct will be
> deemed sufficient cause for disqualification. The decisions of the
> contest-committee are final.
>
> But we go to results and if You are cheater - You are first in the World
> http://www.dxhf.darc.de/~mydxhf/dxhfdb/urkunde/urkunde.
> php?call=px5e&jahr=20
> 15&contest=WAESSB
>
> Well my dear friends, let's take a look to my last year LOG:
> QSO:  7128 PH 2015-09-12 0002 LY5W          59  0005   PX5E          59
>  0010
> QSO:  7124 PH 2015-09-12 0003 LY5W          59  0006   PX2A          59
>  0015
> PX2A - 2nd World
> http://www.dxhf.darc.de/~mydxhf/dxhfdb/urkunde/urkunde.
> php?call=px2a&jahr=20
> 15&contest=WAESSB
> and much more, but those Brasilian stations are in IARU region 3 working
> with Europeans in IARU R1 :)
>
> Ok, let's go next:
> QSO:  7127 PH 2015-09-13 0410 LY5W          59  0403   YV4YC         59
>  0011
> QTC:  7127 PH 2015-09-13 0411 LY5W          1/10       YV4YC         0112
> LZ5K          0043
> QTC:  7127 PH 2015-09-13 0411 LY5W          1/10       YV4YC         0113
> IR4X          0018
> QTC:  7127 PH 2015-09-13 0412 LY5W          1/10       YV4YC         0117
> DL5L          0047
> QTC:  7127 PH 2015-09-13 0412 LY5W          1/10       YV4YC         0119
> SK3W          0039
> QTC:  7127 PH 2015-09-13 0412 LY5W          1/10       YV4YC         0149
> DJ7WW         0057
> QTC:  7127 PH 2015-09-13 0412 LY5W          1/10       YV4YC         0200
> I2VRN         0074
> QTC:  7127 PH 2015-09-13 0413 LY5W          1/10       YV4YC         0201
> DJ7EO         0053
> QTC:  7127 PH 2015-09-13 0413 LY5W          1/10       YV4YC         0404
> F4DXW         1213
> QTC:  7127 PH 2015-09-13 0413 LY5W          1/10       YV4YC         0405
> DL1NKS        0132
> QTC:  7127 PH 2015-09-13 0414 LY5W          1/10       YV4YC         0407
> DC4A          0349
> or
> QTC:  7106 PH 2015-09-12 0420 LY5W          5/10       HC2AO         0259
> RT4F          0106
> QTC:  7106 PH 2015-09-12 0420 LY5W          5/10       HC2AO         0302
> OE6Z          0065
> QTC:  7106 PH 2015-09-12 0420 LY5W          5/10       HC2AO         0303
> YT9M          0018
> QTC:  7106 PH 2015-09-12 0420 LY5W          5/10       HC2AO         0305
> LZ5K          0082
> QTC:  7106 PH 2015-09-12 0420 LY5W          5/10       HC2AO         0305
> OK7M          0028
> QTC:  7106 PH 2015-09-12 0420 LY5W          5/10       HC2AO         0305
> UA2F          0057
> QTC:  7106 PH 2015-09-12 0420 LY5W          5/10       HC2AO         0306
> DL5L          0066
> QTC:  7106 PH 2015-09-12 0421 LY5W          5/10       HC2AO         0306
> LY9A          0039
> QTC:  7106 PH 2015-09-12 0421 LY5W          5/10       HC2AO         0307
> IR4X          0109
> QTC:  7106 PH 2015-09-12 0421 LY5W          5/10       HC2AO         0308
> EI7M          0062
> etc etc
>
> and try to calculate how many cheaters You found now from Europe. And they
> are WRTC participants.
> So where is fair play?
>
> What to do? Explain please.
>
> To be stupid and pretend that nothing is happening, or follow the rules and
> remain in last place fool Sam LY5W
> http://www.wrtc2018.de/index.php/en/qualification/
> standings-2?value=ly5w&tas
> k=callsign
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