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Re: [CQ-Contest] R: Re: R: 3V8SS disqualified from WW SSB and WRTC

To: Ashraf Chaabane <ash.kf5eyy@gmail.com>, CQ-Contest <cq-contest@contesting.com>, Kelly Taylor <ve4xt@mymts.net>
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] R: Re: R: 3V8SS disqualified from WW SSB and WRTC
From: Gerry Hull <gerry@yccc.org>
Reply-to: w1ve@yccc.org
Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2017 14:49:59 -0500
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Ash,

From your web page "As per CC very first email, my IP is 196.176.13.62,
Tunisian number of a mobile 3G/4G provider. That's the only internet I have.
The scout house where 3V8SS is doesn't have internet"


So is this not your claimed IP address?

Kelly,

Read
http://security.stackexchange.com/questions/55279/how-easy-is-it-really-to-do-ip-spoofing

It's not an easy thing.   Somebody would really have to be after someone to
try and spoof addresses.

And, spoofing two addresses in different subnets from the same origin?


BTW, I lean towards believing Ash, just pointing at the evidence.

73, Gerry W1VE

On Wed, Feb 22, 2017 at 1:45 PM, Ashraf Chaabane <ash.kf5eyy@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Chuck,
>
>
>
> Correct call is : KG5OUE, Gerry copied it wrongly.
>
>
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> Gerry,
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>
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> I didn’t say what is my IP, I don’t even know how to have it. CC said I
> was using that one.
>
>
>
> 73
>
> Ash
>
>
>
> *De :* w5prchuck@gmail.com [mailto:w5prchuck@gmail.com]
> *Envoyé :* mercredi 22 février 2017 19:38
> *À :* Gerry Hull; Kelly Taylor
> *Cc :* cq-contest; Ashraf Chaabane
> *Objet :* RE: [CQ-Contest] R: Re: R: 3V8SS disqualified from WW SSB and
> WRTC
>
>
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> KG5UOE is not in the FCC database.
>
>
>
> Chuck W5PR
>
>
>
> Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for
> Windows 10
>
>
>
> *From: *Gerry Hull <gerry@yccc.org>
> *Sent: *Wednesday, February 22, 2017 11:56 AM
> *To: *Kelly Taylor <ve4xt@mymts.net>
> *Cc: *cq-contest <cq-contest@contesting.com>; Ashraf Chaabane
> <ash.kf5eyy@gmail.com>
> *Subject: *Re: [CQ-Contest] R: Re: R: 3V8SS disqualified from WW SSB and
> WRTC
>
>
>
> I just read Ash's post on his web page.
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>
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> I wish Dave, K1TTT, still did his analysis of IP traffic.
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>
>
> However, with some checking on www.arin.net:
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> Committee says IP of 3V8CB and KG5UOE was 197.2.86.149.   F4HJD and these
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> same two cal lsigns also spotted from 197.0.251.101.
>
> Ash says his IP was 196.176.13.62.
>
>
>
> ALL of these IP addresses are from the same provider:
>
>
>
> Name Generic POC
>
> Handle GENER11-ARIN
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> Company AfriNIC Ltd
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> Street Level 11ABC
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> Raffles Tower
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> Lot 19, Cybercity
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> City Ebene
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> I doubt KG5UOE and F4HJD would be routing their traffic via this internet
>
> supplier for Africa/Indian Ocean.
>
>
>
> Also, said he was using a 3G/4G cellular provider.    None of these
>
> providers have mobile devices having a fixed IP.
>
> It is most certainly dynamic, assigned from a pool.
>
>
>
> Is this smoking-gun evidence?   I don't know.  I'll leave that up to the
>
> reader.   The shame is that Ash is a great op.
>
>
>
> However, we must have confidence in the committee (both CQWW and WRTC).
>
>
>
> 73, Gerry W1VE
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>
>
> On Wed, Feb 22, 2017 at 10:44 AM, Kelly Taylor <ve4xt@mymts.net> wrote:
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>
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> > I think this is definitely a case for the ideal ‘Justice must not only be
>
> > done, it must be seen to be done.’
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> >
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> > With all due respect to the committee, from the information available, we
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> > cannot see justice being done here.
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> >
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> > It is true we do not, now, know whether we are seeing everything or only
>
> > the things Ash wants us to see, but from what we CAN see, it looks as
>
> > though the DQ is based on flimsy grounds. Given the added consequence of
>
> > the DQ (WRTC eligibility), it demands the highest standard of proof of
>
> > guilt.
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> >
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> > I have my doubts a guilty party would protest to this degree. I suggest
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> > the committee members owe it to themselves to be transparent on this one.
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> >
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> > 73, kelly, ve4xt
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> >
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> >
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> > > On Feb 22, 2017, at 7:34 AM, Ashraf Chaabane <ash.kf5eyy@gmail.com>
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> > wrote:
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> > >
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> > > Mike, Ria and all,
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> > >
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> > > I put online the CC accusations (their native emails) and my responses:
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> > >
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> > > http://www.kf5eyy.info/3V8SS_WWSSB16_DQ.htm
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> > >
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> > > I think that allows everyone to read from both sides. Now it's up to
> you
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> > to
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> > > comment!
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> > >
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> > > 73
>
> > > --
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> > > Ash ~ 3V8SS/KF5EYY
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> > > http://www.kf5eyy.info/
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> > > Phone/SMS: (+216) 22670026 <+216%2022%20670%20026>
>
> > > Skype: kf5eyy
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