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Re: [CQ-Contest] CX2DK - NOT DQ

To: W0MU Mike Fatchett <w0mu@w0mu.com>
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] CX2DK - NOT DQ
From: Ria Jairam <rjairam@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2017 21:30:14 -0500
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Why do you want him to release his log?

I thought the idea was to keep the methods of finding cheaters secret?

Ria
N2RJ

On Tue, Mar 7, 2017 at 2:12 PM, W0MU Mike Fatchett <w0mu@w0mu.com> wrote:

> Exactly.  Without his recording they cannot do further analysis. A so
> called clean recording could be shot full of holes with SDR recordings, etc.
>
> It doesn't matter what we think.  The rules are the rules.  Play by them
> or get them changed.
>
> CX2DK how about releasing your log to the public?
>
> W0MU
>
>
>
> On 3/7/2017 9:43 AM, Kelly Taylor wrote:
>
>> The point being missed in Jorge’s message is this: a clean recording is
>> proof of nothing.
>>
>> It may only prove the operator is adept at arranging affairs so the
>> recording only makes it appear to be a clean operation.
>>
>> 73, kelly, ve4xt
>>
>>
>> On Mar 7, 2017, at 9:47 AM, charlie@thegallos.com wrote:
>>>
>>> <snip>
>>>
>>>> My point is about this rule, and all that will be added in the future.
>>>> What
>>>> happen if I recorded the contest and after it, I listen to audio file
>>>> and
>>>> is bad, por example a common problem, the connector that comes off very
>>>> easily from the back of K3 line out, so, not audio file.
>>>>
>>> Them's the breaks - fix it so it won't happen
>>>
>>> <snip>
>>>
>>>> If audio fail?  what happened. I will not stop after the first 15
>>>> minutes
>>>> of the contest to start listening form my audio file to see if it´s OK.
>>>> So
>>>> I will notice if after the end of the contest
>>>>
>>> Again - it is part of the rules, you deal with the rules
>>>
>>> 'Sometimes You Eat the Bear, and Sometimes the Bear Eats You"
>>>
>>> <snip>
>>>
>>> If the Contest committee makes a rule you have to print out the log in
>>> green ink, you read the rules, and you print in green ink
>>>
>>> I'm not much of a radio contester, but I mentor robotics contesting.
>>> Guess what?  After the 1st weekend of matches (we don't compete for
>>> another few weeks), they made a change to the rules.  it means something
>>> we spent a lot of time and resources during "build season" dealing with
>>> is
>>> moot.  Other times, changes have helped us.  You adapt and overcome.
>>>
>>> When the committee asks for your audio file one year, and you can't
>>> provide it, and waves it, it behooves you to make SURE you have it the
>>> next year.  You KNOW they are asking for it.  Hint - If ruling board say
>>> "I need X from you" and you don't have it and waves you, you'd better
>>> KNOW
>>> that the next time around, even if they don't suspect anything, they are
>>> GOING to ask, to make sure you made the changes you needed to ask
>>>
>>> If I tell you that you have to bring a #2 pencil to school every day, and
>>> the first day, you only bring a pen, I'll loan out a pencil.  Guess what?
>>> The next day, I'm going to check to see if you brought a pencil
>>>
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