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Re: [CQ-Contest] Can you not hear me now?

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Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Can you not hear me now?
From: RT Clay <rt_clay@bellsouth.net>
Reply-to: RT Clay <rt_clay@bellsouth.net>
Date: Thu, 15 Jun 2017 14:45:32 +0000 (UTC)
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Somewhat off-topic, but with meteor scatter (even when using MSK144), you 
usually CAN hear the other signals. The advantage of MSK144 over ear copy is 
that it can send information in very short meteor bursts that are not long 
enough for SSB.
An equal problem on VHF seems to be that many people are going to digital modes 
by default, even when signals might be very strong. This makes qsos take much 
much longer than necessary (one transmission on JT65 for example takes 1 
minute). I made one MSK144 qso during the contest with a station 800 miles away 
on 2m. He was 56-57 (via tropo) and the qso would have been much easier and 
faster on SSB. He could have probably worked many more stations by calling cq 
using SSB.

Similarly, 50.276 is now jammed with JT65 during 6m openings. Nearly all of the 
qsos I have made there have been with signals strong enough for easy CW/SSB 
copy, but using JT65 forces each qso to take several minutes just to exchange a 
report and grid.

Tor
N4OGW 

    On Thursday, June 15, 2017 7:16 AM, James Cain <jamesdavidcain@gmail.com> 
wrote:
 

  The latest ARRL Contest Update newsletter summarized some 3830 ARRL June VHF  
Contest comments as follows:
 
 "In the soapbox comments from the most recent June ARRL VHF Contest many  
stations were reporting the use of the MSK144 digital mode for making QSOs  
where a SSB or CW path did not appear to exist. MSK144 can be sent and  
received using the WSJT-X program by Joe Taylor, K1JT. MSK144 uses exchange  
sequences as fast a five seconds to take advantage of propagation that might 
 occur due to meteor scatter."
 
 Way back in the ancient days of radio there was a saying:
 
 "You can't work them if you can't hear them."
 
Maybe we need an updated saying:
 
 "You can work them even if you can't hear them."
 
 K1TN 
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