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Re: [CQ-Contest] SO2R vs SO1R

To: sawyered@earthlink.net
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] SO2R vs SO1R
From: Ria Jairam <rjairam@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2017 14:23:37 +0000
List-post: <mailto:cq-contest@contesting.com>
While that is true, you don't race F1 against NASCAR.

Radiosport is unique in that regard.

Ria, N2RJ

On Fri, Aug 11, 2017 at 10:22 AM Ed Sawyer <sawyered@earthlink.net> wrote:

> Its no different than a race car driver or a sailor.  Great talent in a
> poor vehicle will lose most times to very good talent in a great vehicle.
> True competitors find a way to get themselves into the great vehicles - one
> way or another.  C'est la vie!  Radiosport is not immune from life.
>
> Ed  N1UR
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ria Jairam [mailto:rjairam@gmail.com]
> Sent: Friday, August 11, 2017 10:02 AM
> To: sawyered@earthlink.net
> Cc: CQ-Contest Reflector
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] SO2R vs SO1R
>
> Nobody's "beating up" on East Coast stations as I am one myself.
>
> The idea though is that it's not an even game of skills at all, and other
> advantages shouldn't be simply dismissed.
>
> Ria, N2RJ
>
> On Fri, Aug 11, 2017 at 10:00 AM, Ed Sawyer <sawyered@earthlink.net>
> wrote:
> > I know we all like to beat up on East Coast stations.  I thought that
> SS, NAQP, Sprint, 10M were of interest to the group.  No East Coast
> advantage there - in fact its "almost" fatal to be on the East Coast for
> those contests, especially the North East.
>
> >
> > I don't know why "contest opinion" is so DX Contest centric on this
> reflector.  It should bother people that are more interested in domestic
> contests, but doesn't seem to.
> >
> > Ed  N1UR
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Ria Jairam [mailto:rjairam@gmail.com]
> > Sent: Friday, August 11, 2017 9:41 AM
> > To: sawyered@earthlink.net
> > Cc: CQ-Contest Reflector
> > Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] SO2R vs SO1R
> >
> > The original statement said:
> >
> > "I don't support the notion we should create new categories just because
> some folks have developed a skill the rest of us choose not to."
> >
> > Let's be honest with ourselves. This is NOT simply and only a question
> of skills. It is absolutely a question of station in addition to skills.
> There's absolutely 100% no denying of this.
> >
> > This pretty much mirrors the debate over assisted vs unassisted, or even
> in-band dual CQ which was banned by ARRL and CQ. It takes skill to use the
> cluster. It also takes skill to dual CQ in band. But a very important
> consideration is having the station to do it.
> >
> > Think of it - are all of the stations on the East Coast that place in
> the top 10, somehow more skilled than those in the rest of the country
> because they place in the top 10? Of course not. What about those with wire
> antennas only? Are they less skilled? I doubt it. There are many factors at
> play, but to dismiss it as simply and only a question of skills is
> deception intended to shut down debate over whether SO2R should be
> considered separately.
> >
> > And for the record, I do not think that SO2R in the official results
> should be considered separately from SO1R. Single op refers to  the person
> behind the station, not the number of radios.
> >
> > Ria, N2RJ
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Aug 11, 2017 at 8:56 AM, Ed Sawyer <sawyered@earthlink.net>
> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> “Hmm. I do know that 2 towers, filtering, 2 radios and 2 amps is
> >> double the cost... And for most the barrier isn't skill, it's cost.”
> >> N2RJ
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Why stop there?  1 competitive radio with a competitive tower and
> >> antennas and the land to put it on with a relatively low noise floor
> >> can be a BIGGER cost impediment than adding a second radio and tower
> >> to an already competitive location.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> To be competitive in this sport, you need a very good to great
> >> location that can support at least a big tower/antennas with a
> >> relatively low noise floor – SO1R/SO2R/SOXR/
> >> Assisited/Unassited/MS/M2/MM it doesn’t matter.  It’s the cost of
> >> entry at the competitive level.  To then say adding SO2R is somehow the
> cost barrier is naïve.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Ed  N1UR
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> PS – I literally picked my homesite with competitive radio contesting
> >> in mind.  One, 2, or 3 towers after that was about time and
> >> maintenance hassle, not about money.
> >>
> >>
> >>
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