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Re: [CQ-Contest] Be careful what you wish for

To: "'Chet Moore'" <Chetmoore@cox.net>, "'Art Peters'" <k0acp@k0acp.com>, "'CQ-Contest'" <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Be careful what you wish for
From: "Ed Sawyer" <sawyered@earthlink.net>
Reply-to: sawyered@earthlink.net
Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2017 16:35:03 -0500
List-post: <mailto:cq-contest@contesting.com>
It sounds like the trade is a feeling of "even playing field" vs painfully slow 
conditions for the stronger stations.  2 an hour for the big guns while the 
smaller stations do 30 an hour and catch up.  The ones catching up don't want 
it to change and the ones enduring 2 an hour are saying "this is getting to be 
too slow to endure".

Sounds to me like the solution is for the smaller pistols to get more of their 
friends to join in on SS.

73

Ed  N1UR 

-----Original Message-----
From: Chet Moore [mailto:Chetmoore@cox.net] 
Sent: Wednesday, November 8, 2017 1:29 PM
To: sawyered@earthlink.net; 'Art Peters'; 'CQ-Contest'
Subject: RE: [CQ-Contest] Be careful what you wish for

I dont know about the new hams in the last 7 years but my love for SS goes back 
to it being the only contest I could even compete in having only a vertical, 
wires and low power for my first 5 years in ham radio and living in an 
apartment.  my interest was not scientific, it was simply the best I could do 
at the time. I was outconus for most of that time, a conditional licensee, and 
usually the only ham at the locations where I happened to be. while i am a life 
member now, I was not a qst subscriber then. My first SS operation came from 
trying to have a rag chew with a ss participant who asked me if I was in the  
ss contest. I didn't know what a contest was.  He explained the exchange,(all 
done on cw) told me what my exchange should be and except for some time in iraq 
and bahrain, I have never missed an ss since. I'm not advocating for any 
changes but if they are made "CHAMPIONS ADJUST !!"

73 

Chet  WA4KJR, WA4KJR/VO1,N6ZO, KL7AIZ, KG4ZO VQ9XX, ZD8W, KP4EAJ N6ZO/6y5 
N6ZO/HH9


Chet N4FX

-----Original Message-----
From: CQ-Contest [mailto:cq-contest-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Ed 
Sawyer
Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2017 9:53 AM
To: 'Art Peters'; 'CQ-Contest'
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Be careful what you wish for

Hello Art.  No offense intended.  I believe that people getting involved in SS 
in the past 10 years and considering it their favorite contest are a rarity 
indeed.  The submitted log numbers and complaints of dwindling Sunday activity 
by the regulars would not be what they are if there were noticeably more people 
like yourself.

I am glad you enjoy SS.  I have no beef with it.  I am also not complaining 
about it.  Just offering a possible explanation to the complainers and 
suggesting that their complaint cannot be substantiated across other HF contest 
activity data or experiences.

Ed  N1UR

-----Original Message-----
From: Art Peters [mailto:k0acp@k0acp.com]
Sent: Wednesday, November 8, 2017 8:58 AM
To: sawyered@earthlink.net; CQ-Contest
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Be careful what you wish for

Ed,

I have to take exception to your comment, I may be able to see old-Timer from 
where I am, but have only been contesting with any sort of intensity for the 
last 7-years.  SS is one of, if not my favorite contest, partly due to my 
station configuration, and partially it is the intricacy of attaining all 83 
sections, which while a lot of work, it is doable.  So I’d have to respectfully 
submit that the great thing about (Ham Radio / America) is that everyone is 
entitled to their opinion...

73 es God Bless,

Art / K0ACP

Sent from my iPad

> On Nov 7, 2017, at 11:39 AM, Ed Sawyer <sawyered@earthlink.net> wrote:
> 
> SS has been an old timers contest for as long as I have been 
> contesting -
> 20+ years.  Virtually no one coming into contesting in the last 2 
> 20+ decades is
> a gung ho SS competitor.  The SS group is growing old or dieing off.  
> 
> 
> 
> But don't compare that to most other contests.  CQ WW SSB was amazing.  
> Rate meter spending LONG times above 200 and 300 peaks observed 
> numerous times during the weekend.  3000 - 4600 Qs logged by the top
> 10 US HP and 9000 Qs logged by 8P5A SOAB HP leader.  CQ WW CW has been 
> no exception in the past to be as much if not more volume of Qs than the SSB 
> contest.
> 
> 
> 
> SS has a problem - that is not debatable.  But SSB contesting and CW 
> contesting don't show signs of problems in most other contests.  In 
> fact - until this last year of greatly diminishing sunspots - have 
> been on a decade long growth trend globally.
> 
> 
> 
> Its easy to fix the boredom of SS.  But its not easy to do it and keep 
> it the same old SS.  Choices need to be made.
> 
> 
> 
> 73
> 
> 
> 
> Ed  N1UR
> 
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