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Re: [CQ-Contest] Check In SS

To: "'CQ-Contest Reflector'" <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Check In SS
From: "Ron Notarius W3WN" <wn3vaw@verizon.net>
Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2017 16:34:31 -0500
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The point of the check is to send a somewhat unique (to you) piece of
information, emulating part of the old traffic message format that the SS
exchange derived from.

It has to be on the honor system, since they may not have records of when
YOU were first licensed, especially if there was a gap, or you were first
licensed in another country/entity, etc.  To say nothing of people
forgetting the exact year, as N2RJ aluded to earlier.

The point is to send the same consistent check throughout the contest.

Of course, this long predates personal computing and the prevalence of PC's
in our shacks, homes, and lives. NOW it is easy enough to maintain a
database of the checks people used in the past, so that you don't have to
"guess" if you miss it... Though you should still copy what you are sent,
not what the computer says it should be.  

While I appreciate that many "vary" their check to, in part, defeat these
databases, it's still not right.  Even if there's no official way to verify
it.  Two wrongs don't make a right.  (Three lefts do, but that's another
story)

73, ron w3wn

-----Original Message-----
From: CQ-Contest [mailto:cq-contest-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of
John Geiger
Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2017 2:37 PM
To: W0MU Mike Fatchett
Cc: CQ-Contest Reflector
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Check In SS

What is the point of the ARRL stating in the rules that the check is the
year first licensed, if they really don't care what you send?

73 John AF5CC

On Wed, Nov 8, 2017 at 9:51 AM, W0MU Mike Fatchett <w0mu@w0mu.com> wrote:

> I think most people try to use their actual year licensed.
>
> That would be a good question to ask on the entry form.   What year were
> you licensed.  It think we all know that new hams are hard to come by 
> and many are not interested in contesting.
>
> W0MU
>
>
> On 11/7/2017 1:54 PM, ShelbyK4WW wrote:
>
>> Why are so many putting so much emphasis on the CK, as anything more 
>> than a "randomly chosen two digit number that is consistently used 
>> throughout the contest", having absolutely no relation to anything? 
>> ARRL has indicated it will not enforce the CK as being "The last 2 
>> digits of the year of first license for either the operator or the 
>> station", and many have indicated that they change their CK, from 
>> year to year? It certainly has little, if any, bearing on when they 
>> were licensed?
>> As far as CW speed is concerned, when I call another station, I feel 
>> obligated to try and match their speed. Sometimes this requires me to 
>> listen to several contacts, before calling. I expect, and usually 
>> receive, the same consideration, when I'm called? I fail to see any 
>> logic to calling at a much higher speed, then having to endure 
>> several repeats?
>>
>> In it to win it? Not a chance
>> In it to have fun? Most definitely
>>
>> 73, Shelby - K4WW
>> As I don't have an iPad nor iPhone, sent from my PC 
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