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Re: [CQ-Contest] WRTC Qualifying

To: "rjairam@gmail.com" <rjairam@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] WRTC Qualifying
From: Rudy Bakalov via CQ-Contest <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Reply-to: Rudy Bakalov <r_bakalov@yahoo.com>
Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2018 10:44:20 +0100
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Building and maintaining a high performance station is a skill, just like being 
able to copy 40 WPM or do SO2R. I don’t understand why station building is so 
frequently dismissed.

IMHO, contesting is just like the Paris to Dakar rally- to win you need an 
outstanding and reliable station, great operating skills and stamina to do so 
over a long period of time, and strategy for dealing with changing conditions.

Rudy N2WQ

Sent using a tiny keyboard.  Please excuse brevity, typos, or inappropriate 
autocorrect.


> On Jul 8, 2018, at 2:49 AM, "rjairam@gmail.com" <rjairam@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> I’m looking at my case. Under the current criteria I have not a shot in
> hell. Mostly because I’m competing with W1 who has an obvious geographic
> advantage. When it was aligned with US Call districts it was a bit easier,
> but I didn’t really try to qualify then.
> 
> I guess the dream will have to wait, or I could spend money and build a
> station in the Caribbean and operate, remotely even.
> 
> I don’t think it will be possible to be completely fair but qualification
> rules should prioritize skill first if this is going to be a competition of
> who is the best operator. There are of course some damned good operators in
> there but I think some who may not have access to a super duper station get
> left out.
> 
> 73
> Ria
> N2RJ
>> On Sat, Jul 7, 2018 at 9:21 PM Jeff Clarke <ku8e@ku8e.com> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>>      6. Qualification Score Calculation
>> 
>> The qualification score is the sum of up to 12 Event Scores. The maximum
>> possible qualification score is 12.000 for DL, 11.900 for the rest of
>> the world.
>> 
>> 1. A maximum of 4 Event Scores may be from multi-ops (MS/M2/MM).
>> 2. A maximum of 4 Event Scores can be from outside an applicant’s home
>>    Selection Area (i.e., DXpeditions).
>> 3. A maximum of 2 operators may submit scores for a single contest from
>>    a MS, 3 from a M2, and 4 from a MM.
>> 4. If an operator’s callsign appears with more than one entry in a
>>    single qualifying event (e.g., from operating at more than one
>>    station), they may not use any scores from that contest.
>> 5. In the unlikely case of a tie score for the final qualifying spot in
>>    a Selection Area, the applicants will be asked for additional scores
>>    beyond those submitted on the application until the tie is broken.
>> 
>> As long as you operate a station in your own qualification area as a SO
>> it counts. That would ether be from home OR as a guest operator. That's
>> how you could qualify without having a station at home.
>> 
>> Jeff
>> 
>> 
>>> On 7/7/2018 05:38 PM, Timothy Coker via CQ-Contest wrote:
>>> What if you had no home station, let alone a tribander with wires, could
>> you qualify then?
>>> Tim / N6WIN
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Saturday, July 7, 2018, 14:16, Igor Sokolov <ua9cdc@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Yes, this was the first time one could qualify using low power.
>>> Notwithstanding you have to have big antenna farm because even in Low
>>> power category there were a lot of competitors. And yes, some of those
>>> who have big stations did bother with doing low power. Tribander and
>>> wires from the city lot is not enough to qualify for WRTC regardless of
>>> power.
>>> 
>>> 73, Igor UA9CDC
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 07.07.2018 22:03, Jeff Clarke пишет:
>>>> It's possible to qualify by doing low power. Your score would be
>>>> compared to others that are doing low power and not the high power
>>>> scores. If you do that you won't have to compete again the "big gun"
>>>> stations in your region. Plus you aren't getting any reduction in
>>>> score ( getting the same number of points same as HP SO guys) like
>>>> someone who did Multi-Ops. I really doubt someone who has a big
>>>> station would want to bother with doing low power.
>>>> 
>>>> If I'm not mistaken Julio, AD4Z, who is one of the team leaders in our
>>>> region (NA-002) did this and qualified.
>>>> 
>>>> Jeff KU8E
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On 7/6/2018 11:11 PM, Timothy Coker via CQ-Contest wrote:
>>>>> I think what’s most interesting is the guys I know who typically win
>>>>> don’t spend a lot of time complaining... they spend a lot of time
>>>>> working at what makes them winners.
>>>>> I can also think of some people who won/win that don’t have deep
>>>>> pockets at all.
>>>>> Some of the best operators don’t actually have big stations. Not
>>>>> taking away from the big station owners at all, as some of them are
>>>>> great operators themselves. However, many are willing to let the
>>>>> latest up and coming great operators take their station seats to show
>>>>> what can be done.
>>>>> It makes sense to me because it takes a lot of time and effort to
>>>>> either build or work to pay for others to build something expensive.
>>>>> That same time is thus not spent on honing operating skills.
>>>>> Very similar to how many athletes aren’t rich until after (and not
>>>>> for all) they have worked so very hard to win and are given noteriety.
>>>>> If a guy wants to remote or travel into my area and he beats me, so
>>>>> be it... time for me to get better. Or maybe I don’t want to put in
>>>>> the same operating skills effort that he did and thus I’ll just hope
>>>>> he doesn’t return.
>>>>> Competition is great... it shows how hard we are willing to work, or
>>>>> not.
>>>>> Tim / N6WIN.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Friday, July 6, 2018, 14:45, Jim via CQ-Contest
>>>>> <cq-contest@contesting.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> I have a somewhat different perspective, being an Ohio snowbird who
>>>>> spends half the year in Florida. As a practical matter I could not
>>>>> qualify without a lot of travel or remote operating from W8. And I’m
>>>>> not that stupid to head north from Florida in February  :-)
>>>>> 
>>>>> I had my shot at WRTC in 2014 (as N1U with partner K9NW), but I
>>>>> didn’t compete to qualify for 2018, and don’t see me trying to
>>>>> qualify for future WRTCs, so don’t take these comments as being self
>>>>> serving.
>>>>> 
>>>>> If a W6 resident wants to operate from W1, let him do so, comparing
>>>>> his scores with other W1 entrants. And conversely, if a guy living in
>>>>> W1 is crazy enough to want to operate CQWW from W6, thinking the
>>>>> qualifying competition there might be less, why stop him? Again,
>>>>> compare his W6 score with other W6 scores, and let the WRTC
>>>>> qualifying points go into his home W1 account.
>>>>> 
>>>>> So long as a person is a legitimate resident of his qualifying area,
>>>>> why stop him from operating from anywhere in the world, whether in
>>>>> person or remotely? I don’t have a problem to allow someone like
>>>>> LZ4AX to qualify from W3, but I would not let people become
>>>>> “Africans” solely by virtue of a bunch of operating from zone 33.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 73  -  Jim    K8MR
>>>>> 
>>>>> p.s.  Keep in mind the motto of the Florida Contest Group: Sooner or
>>>>> later, you’ll be one of us!
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Jul 6, 2018, at 4:16 PM, WW3S <ww3s@zoominternet.net> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> A west coast ham, operating a remote station with antennas in Maine,
>>>>>> should be competing as if he/she were physically in Maine.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Jul 5, 2018, at 11:56 PM, David Siddall <hhamwv@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> A W6 ham resident in California that operates a station on the east
>>>>>>> coast,
>>>>>>> whether by physical or remote means, could not qualify to be a team
>>>>>>> leader
>>>>>>> for the WRTC2018.  Rule 7.5 - 7.7, subject to Rule 6.2.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 73, Dave K3ZJ
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jul 5, 2018 at 5:52 PM, Carol Richards <n2mm@comcast.net>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I agree....where you operate _from_ should determine what region you
>>>>>>>> compete in. A W6 in California operating a remote station on the
>>>>>>>> East coast
>>>>>>>> should not be grouped with other East coast stations to qualify
>>>>>>>> for WRTC.
>>>>>>>> This remote category is getting out of hand.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Carol
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