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Re: [CQ-Contest] WRTC Qualifying

To: Jeff Clarke <ku8e@ku8e.com>
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] WRTC Qualifying
From: "rjairam@gmail.com" <rjairam@gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 7 Jul 2018 21:49:42 -0400
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I’m looking at my case. Under the current criteria I have not a shot in
hell. Mostly because I’m competing with W1 who has an obvious geographic
advantage. When it was aligned with US Call districts it was a bit easier,
but I didn’t really try to qualify then.

I guess the dream will have to wait, or I could spend money and build a
station in the Caribbean and operate, remotely even.

I don’t think it will be possible to be completely fair but qualification
rules should prioritize skill first if this is going to be a competition of
who is the best operator. There are of course some damned good operators in
there but I think some who may not have access to a super duper station get
left out.

73
Ria
N2RJ
On Sat, Jul 7, 2018 at 9:21 PM Jeff Clarke <ku8e@ku8e.com> wrote:

>
>       6. Qualification Score Calculation
>
> The qualification score is the sum of up to 12 Event Scores. The maximum
> possible qualification score is 12.000 for DL, 11.900 for the rest of
> the world.
>
>  1. A maximum of 4 Event Scores may be from multi-ops (MS/M2/MM).
>  2. A maximum of 4 Event Scores can be from outside an applicant’s home
>     Selection Area (i.e., DXpeditions).
>  3. A maximum of 2 operators may submit scores for a single contest from
>     a MS, 3 from a M2, and 4 from a MM.
>  4. If an operator’s callsign appears with more than one entry in a
>     single qualifying event (e.g., from operating at more than one
>     station), they may not use any scores from that contest.
>  5. In the unlikely case of a tie score for the final qualifying spot in
>     a Selection Area, the applicants will be asked for additional scores
>     beyond those submitted on the application until the tie is broken.
>
> As long as you operate a station in your own qualification area as a SO
> it counts. That would ether be from home OR as a guest operator. That's
> how you could qualify without having a station at home.
>
> Jeff
>
>
> On 7/7/2018 05:38 PM, Timothy Coker via CQ-Contest wrote:
> > What if you had no home station, let alone a tribander with wires, could
> you qualify then?
> > Tim / N6WIN
> >
> >
> > Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone
> >
> >
> > On Saturday, July 7, 2018, 14:16, Igor Sokolov <ua9cdc@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Yes, this was the first time one could qualify using low power.
> > Notwithstanding you have to have big antenna farm because even in Low
> > power category there were a lot of competitors. And yes, some of those
> > who have big stations did bother with doing low power. Tribander and
> > wires from the city lot is not enough to qualify for WRTC regardless of
> > power.
> >
> > 73, Igor UA9CDC
> >
> >
> > 07.07.2018 22:03, Jeff Clarke пишет:
> >> It's possible to qualify by doing low power. Your score would be
> >> compared to others that are doing low power and not the high power
> >> scores. If you do that you won't have to compete again the "big gun"
> >> stations in your region. Plus you aren't getting any reduction in
> >> score ( getting the same number of points same as HP SO guys) like
> >> someone who did Multi-Ops. I really doubt someone who has a big
> >> station would want to bother with doing low power.
> >>
> >> If I'm not mistaken Julio, AD4Z, who is one of the team leaders in our
> >> region (NA-002) did this and qualified.
> >>
> >> Jeff KU8E
> >>
> >>
> >> On 7/6/2018 11:11 PM, Timothy Coker via CQ-Contest wrote:
> >>> I think what’s most interesting is the guys I know who typically win
> >>> don’t spend a lot of time complaining... they spend a lot of time
> >>> working at what makes them winners.
> >>> I can also think of some people who won/win that don’t have deep
> >>> pockets at all.
> >>> Some of the best operators don’t actually have big stations. Not
> >>> taking away from the big station owners at all, as some of them are
> >>> great operators themselves. However, many are willing to let the
> >>> latest up and coming great operators take their station seats to show
> >>> what can be done.
> >>> It makes sense to me because it takes a lot of time and effort to
> >>> either build or work to pay for others to build something expensive.
> >>> That same time is thus not spent on honing operating skills.
> >>> Very similar to how many athletes aren’t rich until after (and not
> >>> for all) they have worked so very hard to win and are given noteriety.
> >>> If a guy wants to remote or travel into my area and he beats me, so
> >>> be it... time for me to get better. Or maybe I don’t want to put in
> >>> the same operating skills effort that he did and thus I’ll just hope
> >>> he doesn’t return.
> >>> Competition is great... it shows how hard we are willing to work, or
> >>> not.
> >>> Tim / N6WIN.
> >>>
> >>> Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Friday, July 6, 2018, 14:45, Jim via CQ-Contest
> >>> <cq-contest@contesting.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> I have a somewhat different perspective, being an Ohio snowbird who
> >>> spends half the year in Florida. As a practical matter I could not
> >>> qualify without a lot of travel or remote operating from W8. And I’m
> >>> not that stupid to head north from Florida in February  :-)
> >>>
> >>> I had my shot at WRTC in 2014 (as N1U with partner K9NW), but I
> >>> didn’t compete to qualify for 2018, and don’t see me trying to
> >>> qualify for future WRTCs, so don’t take these comments as being self
> >>> serving.
> >>>
> >>> If a W6 resident wants to operate from W1, let him do so, comparing
> >>> his scores with other W1 entrants. And conversely, if a guy living in
> >>> W1 is crazy enough to want to operate CQWW from W6, thinking the
> >>> qualifying competition there might be less, why stop him? Again,
> >>> compare his W6 score with other W6 scores, and let the WRTC
> >>> qualifying points go into his home W1 account.
> >>>
> >>> So long as a person is a legitimate resident of his qualifying area,
> >>> why stop him from operating from anywhere in the world, whether in
> >>> person or remotely? I don’t have a problem to allow someone like
> >>> LZ4AX to qualify from W3, but I would not let people become
> >>> “Africans” solely by virtue of a bunch of operating from zone 33.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> 73  -  Jim    K8MR
> >>>
> >>> p.s.  Keep in mind the motto of the Florida Contest Group: Sooner or
> >>> later, you’ll be one of us!
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> On Jul 6, 2018, at 4:16 PM, WW3S <ww3s@zoominternet.net> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> A west coast ham, operating a remote station with antennas in Maine,
> >>>> should be competing as if he/she were physically in Maine.
> >>>>
> >>>> Sent from my iPad
> >>>>
> >>>>> On Jul 5, 2018, at 11:56 PM, David Siddall <hhamwv@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> A W6 ham resident in California that operates a station on the east
> >>>>> coast,
> >>>>> whether by physical or remote means, could not qualify to be a team
> >>>>> leader
> >>>>> for the WRTC2018.  Rule 7.5 - 7.7, subject to Rule 6.2.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> 73, Dave K3ZJ
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> On Thu, Jul 5, 2018 at 5:52 PM, Carol Richards <n2mm@comcast.net>
> >>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Hi,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I agree....where you operate _from_ should determine what region you
> >>>>>> compete in. A W6 in California operating a remote station on the
> >>>>>> East coast
> >>>>>> should not be grouped with other East coast stations to qualify
> >>>>>> for WRTC.
> >>>>>> This remote category is getting out of hand.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Carol
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