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Re: [CQ-Contest] CQ-Contest Digest, Vol 224, Issue 20

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Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] CQ-Contest Digest, Vol 224, Issue 20
From: Drew Vonada-Smith <drew@whisperingwoods.org>
Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2021 16:04:32 +0000
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I agree with Jeff 100%.  Wanting to complete in sailing does not make you 
anti-internal combustion engine.  It means you want to master and demonstrate a 
different skill.  Let's not turn everything into the same boring computer game 
exercise.  

73,
Drew K3PA

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Date: Sun, 22 Aug 2021 18:23:19 -0400
From: Jeff Clarke <ku8e@ku8e.com>
To: cq-contest@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Past Prediction of the Future of Contesting.
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Ria,

With all due respect just because some of us of us don't want to use certain 
technologies doesn't make us "anti technology"? Do all of us have to operate 
the same way using the same technologies? Have you ever thought that there are 
many contesters who like to operate non-assisted because it gives them more 
personal satisfaction? Personally I get more satisfaction finding my own 
contacts and multipliers instead of operating in a way that's like catching 
fish in a barrel. I can guarantee there are many contesters who have the same 
feeling as I do. I have no problem if people operate the way they want to. 
(assisted or
non-assisted) Unfortunately the Single-Op rule changes in CQ WPX has taken away 
the option to choose the way you want to operate. Pretty much you have to 
operate assisted if you want to have a competitive score.

Jeff KU8E


On 8/22/2021 5:49 PM, rjairam@gmail.com wrote:
> 97.1 Basis and purpose.
>
> ...
>
> (b) Continuation and extension of the amateur's proven ability to 
> contribute to the advancement of the radio art.
>
> Hams being so anti technology is mind blowing. I have never seen such 
> a paradox except in ham radio.
>
> (yes, it also talks about skill but that doesn't mean we have to shun 
> technology).
>
> You don't have to use a voice skimmer, but someone will invent it. I 
> hope that contest rules at least adapt to it - keep the unassisted 
> categories (too late CQ WPX) without skimmer but allow it for assisted 
> or "unlimited" categories.
>
> We already have the existing cluster with all of the "mechanical 
> turks" putting in DX spots anyway.
>
> 73
> Ria, N2RJ
>
> On Fri, Aug 20, 2021 at 10:01 PM Hans Brakob <kzerohb@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Please, no, a thousand times NO!
>>
>> 73, de Hans, K?HB
>> ?Just a Boy and his Radio??
>> ________________________________
>> From: CQ-Contest 
>> <cq-contest-bounces+kzerohb=gmail.com@contesting.com> on behalf of 
>> Richard F DiDonna NN3W <richnn3w@gmail.com>
>> Sent: Friday, August 20, 2021 7:25:35 AM
>> To: Frank Donovan W3LPL (Frank Donovan W3LPL) <donovanf@erols.com>
>> Cc: reflector cq-contest <CQ-Contest@contesting.com>
>> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Past Prediction of the Future of Contesting.
>>
>> I guess the logical follow-up is what's next:
>>
>> I vote for voice "skimmer"...
>>
>> 73 Rich NN3W
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 20, 2021 at 8:18 AM <donovanf@erols.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks for sharing this Pete.
>>>
>>>
>>> Many of the forecasts proved to be accurate, but as often happens 
>>> with forecasts , two of the most revolutionary changes that have 
>>> greatly impacted contesting were totally unanticipated:
>>>
>>>
>>> - CW Skimmer and its associated Reverse Beacon Network, and
>>> - Explosive growth in the use of digital error correcting protocols, 
>>> especially FT8
>>>
>>>
>>> "It?s tough to make predictions, especially about the future" ? Yogi 
>>> Berra
>>>
>>> 73
>>> Frank
>>> W3LPL
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>
>>> From: "Pete Smith N4ZR" <pete.n4zr@gmail.com>
>>> To: "reflector cq-contest" <CQ-Contest@Contesting.COM>
>>> Sent: Friday, August 20, 2021 2:17:22 AM
>>> Subject: [CQ-Contest] Past Prediction of the Future of Contesting.
>>>
>>> In 2007, ES5TV compiled reflector users' 
>>> predictions/guesses/wild-ass guesses about what contesting would 
>>> look like ten years hence. It's now
>>> 4 years past his original time horizon, and I thought people would 
>>> find it interesting, so I've put it in my Dropbox account at
>>> https://www.dropbox.com/s/uzpj6vhxuqtp6sf/10%20years%20later.pdf?dl=
>>> 0 
>>> <https://www.dropbox.com/s/uzpj6vhxuqtp6sf/10%20years%20later.pdf?dl=0>.
>>> Feel free to download the pdf and giggle...
>>>
>>> --
>>> 73, Pete N4ZR
>>> Check out the new Reverse Beacon Network web server at 
>>> <http://beta.reversebeacon.net>.
>>> For spots, please use your favorite
>>> "retail" DX cluster.
>>>
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