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Re: [CQ-Contest] Spoofed Spots

To: Barry W2UP <w2up.co@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Spoofed Spots
From: "Martin, LU5DX" <lu5dx@lucg.com.ar>
Date: Sat, 4 Dec 2021 15:26:09 -0600
List-post: <mailto:cq-contest@contesting.com>
How does the ARRL validate the authenticity of the data uploaded to LoTW?
Same method could be applied here.
The network should only allow trafic from users who have completed KYC, and
authenticate with either, certificates SSH keys, 2FA, etc.

73,

Martín, LU5DX

El sáb., 4 dic. 2021 13:34, Barry W2UP <w2up.co@gmail.com> escribió:

> Let's put things in perspective.  Multi-billion dollar corporations can't
> stop Rachel from Cardholder Services.  How are we going to stop this?
>
> Barry W2UP
>
> On Sat, Dec 4, 2021 at 11:29 AM Randy Thompson <k5zd@outlook.com> wrote:
>
> > This problem cannot be “solved” without adding some level of
> > authentication to the spotting system. Right now anyone can spot anything
> > using any call.
> >
> > The WW Committee lacks subpoena power so it may not be able to ever
> > identify the rogue spotter.
> >
> > K5ZD
> >
> > > On Dec 4, 2021, at 12:35 PM, Pete Smith N4ZR <pete.n4zr@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Sorry, Tim, but I think a lot of us have a legitimate interest in
> > seeing this solved, and being patted on the hand and told to sit down and
> > be quiet doesn't go over well with me.  I got a status report from K1AR,
> > which is all I was looking for.
> > >
> > > 73, Pete N4ZR
> > > Check out the new Reverse Beacon Network
> > > web server at<
> >
> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fbeta.reversebeacon.net%2F&amp;data=04%7C01%7C%7C342011c994fc4b6ec51e08d9b74c8390%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637742361523486555%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&amp;sdata=7lCLI4Og98QlyiE%2BVraPpQsePSwljzRiI6P75%2BYnRSw%3D&amp;reserved=0
> > >.
> > > For spots, please use your favorite
> > > "retail" DX cluster.
> > >
> > >> On 12/3/2021 9:18 PM, Tim Duffy wrote:
> > >> Hello Pete
> > >>
> > >> What makes you think that nothing is being done? Do not worry.
> > >>
> > >> Be assured that the CQWW committee has this and many other issues well
> > in hand
> > >>
> > >> 73
> > >> Tim K3LR
> > >>
> > >> -----Original Message-----
> > >> From: CQ-Contest [mailto:cq-contest-bounces+k3lr=
> > k3lr.com@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Pete Smith N4ZR
> > >> Sent: Friday, December 3, 2021 10:13 AM
> > >> To: reflector cq-contest
> > >> Subject: [CQ-Contest] Spoofed Spots
> > >>
> > >> I'm really surprised at the apparent disregard for VE7CC's report of
> > >> spoofed spots and spoofed self-spots during CQWWCW, all seemingly
> traced
> > >> to a single IP in Italy.  After the first time this happened, a month
> > >> earlier (CQWWSSB), we were assured that the committee had it in hand,
> > >> with reliable reps in Italy pursuing the answer.  Since then, nothing.
> > >>
> > >> How about a status report - if people can pull this sort of thing with
> > >> impunity, it will certainly damage efforts to enforce the appropriate
> > >> rule against self-spotting.
> > >>
> > >> To refresh memories:
> > >>
> > >> ">From the VE7CC-1 cluster log.
> > >>
> > >> 27 Nov total spoofed spots 599 out of 30018  non skimmer spots.
> > >> 28 Nov total spoofed spots 1117 out of  30073 non skimmer spots.
> > >> Total 1716 spoofed spots from IP 217.61.58.23 over weekend.
> > >>   Includes
> > >> 203 self spots 27 Nov 2021
> > >> 385 self spots 28 Nov 2021
> > >>
> > >> These spoofed spots are only the ones that I identified with IP
> > 217.61.58.23.
> > >> These spots were entered on both DX Spider and CC Cluster nodes.
> There
> > could
> > >> be more from AR Cluster or Spider nodes running software that doesn't
> > include
> > >> IP addresses.
> > >>
> > >>
> >
> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fbcdxc.org%2Fve7cc%2FSelfSpot-Nov-2021.zip&amp;data=04%7C01%7C%7C342011c994fc4b6ec51e08d9b74c8390%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637742361523486555%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&amp;sdata=xoqcCu7sSackHgyh1syNhol3nhuS%2BNrP3LMGtxCeDbo%3D&amp;reserved=0
> > >>
> >
> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fbcdxc.org%2Fve7cc%2F27-Nov-2021.zip&amp;data=04%7C01%7C%7C342011c994fc4b6ec51e08d9b74c8390%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637742361523486555%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&amp;sdata=99VqvStINvHlxk2M3puppARkDzzB3ZKMZvZZff6XdlM%3D&amp;reserved=0
> > >>
> >
> https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fbcdxc.org%2Fve7cc%2F28-Nov-2021.zip&amp;data=04%7C01%7C%7C342011c994fc4b6ec51e08d9b74c8390%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637742361523486555%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&amp;sdata=MiiuQfN1wUu2nTTJxZYiIeta2OYIhEdx%2FWLJ9LcjbPU%3D&amp;reserved=0
> > >>
> > >> Lee VE7CC"
> > >>
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