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RE: [RFI] What antennas are good for HF DFing?

To: kb4t@arrl.net, rfi@contesting.com
Subject: RE: [RFI] What antennas are good for HF DFing?
From: "Rob Atkinson, K5UJ" <k5uj@hotmail.com>
Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2005 05:38:23 +0000
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Frank,

just an idea: maybe a powdered iron rod with as many turns of wire around it as possible (i.e. a loop stick antenna, like what is found in most medium wave AM rx but bigger) would work?

the longer the rod the better. maybe 12" long with ~ 150 turns on it. You can get such a rod from ferrite material suppliers, maybe RF Parts, Amidon, Palomar?

for AM radio rx, these make antennas with pretty sharp nulls off the ends. I see no reason why they would not also have a null off the end in the direction of the source when used to rx mw hash.

I'd also see if an AM aircraft VHF rx picks up the noise when placed extremely close to the source.
it could be the source is so broad that is has radiated energy up into VHF--but it doesn't travel very far. I use an AM aircraft rx and small yagi to df powerline noise.


rob/k5uj

From: "Frank N. Haas" <kb4t@arrl.net>
To: rfi@contesting.com
Subject: [RFI] What antennas are good for HF DFing?
Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2005 22:18:59 -0500


Dear RFI List:


I find myself spending a great deal of time attempting to locate interference in the range of 500 KHz to 8 MHz. Most of these signals originate from switching power supplies or electronic devices that behave like switching power supplies. The easiest signals to locate are those that don't radiate much. Instead they are conducted by AC mains wiring. Generally, the offender is located in the complainant's home and it's just a matter of using my handheld DC to Light receiver and walking around the house until the signal is the strongest. Then things start getting turned off until the signal disappears.

Signals that are radiated in this frequency range are more difficult to locate because it's pretty tough to lug around a 3 or 5 element Yagi for 2 MHz. Since I have to do this several times a month, I need some suggestions on how one can DF signals that are so low in frequency. How do you professionals out there DF signals at such low frequencies???

In years past, many years past, I remember seeing "portable" receivers that were equipped with LOOP antennas that were used by mariners to DF broadcast band signals. Lines would be drawn on a chart using the bearings obtained from this setup. The point where the lines crossed was the location of the vessel. I wouldn't mind doing the same thing in reverse to locate some of these pesky low frequency interference signals. Are there plans somewhere for loop antennas of this sort?

Any help appreciated. Many thanks.

Frank N. Haas KB4T



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