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Re: [RFI] N6CW TVI

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Subject: Re: [RFI] N6CW TVI
From: "Jim Brown" <jim@audiosystemsgroup.com>
Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2007 21:38:43 -0700
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On Sun, 24 Jun 2007 20:28:56 -0700 (PDT), Michael Germino wrote:

>Good thing to try.  Unless it's the DVD that's the problem. 

Plugging and unplugging a cable does THREE very important (and 
very different) things. First, it removes one device from a 
circuit. Second, it removes a current path for noise current that 
may be flowing from one ground to another ground. Third, it 
removes an ANTENNA from the two devices that it connects. It is 
VERY likely that both of those devices have a pin 1 problem (that 
is, shield current enters the box and can cause hum, buzz, and 
RFI). 

The pin 1 problem makes troubleshooting more complicated than it 
otherwise might be. For example, you remove a cable connecting a 
DVD player from a stereo system and the RFI goes away. At least 
three possible causes of the RFI. 

1) The cable connecting the two boxes is acting as an antenna and 
the TV is detecting the RF thanks to a pin 1 problem.  

2) The cable connecting the two boxes is acting as an antenna and 
the DVD is detecting the RF thanks to a pin 1 problem. 

3) The cable connecting the two boxes increases RF current in a 
third box that has RFI susceptibility (that is, the longer antenna 
may be more efficient, closer to resonance, makes the total 
receiving antenna have directional properties that favors your 
station. 

4) The DVD player is detecting the RFI due to lousy shielding, and 
passing it along, but it has nothing to do with the cable between 
them. 

In other words, analysis is complicated by the behavior of the 
cable as antenna. It is also complicated by the pin 1 problem in 
either or both boxes. Ferrite chokes reduce RFI by reducing common 
mode RF current (if its a coaxial cable, thats all flowing on 
the outside of the shield). Thus, if a ferrite choke reduces RFI, 
it gives us an important clue -- it tells us that the cable IS 
acting as an antenna and coupling the RFI. 

To learn more, we can use the dummy concept introduced by Bill 
Whitlock. It uses a males to female barrel connector or cable with 
the shields connected at both ends, but the signal conductor NOT 
connected, and dummy loads at both ends of the cable. This 
provides a path for the antenna current between boxes, but not the 
audio signal. See www.jensentransformers.com, or my own RFI 
Tutorial. 

73,

Jim Brown K9YC



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