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Re: [RFI] Common mode noise

To: svetanoff@earthlink.net
Subject: Re: [RFI] Common mode noise
From: Pete Smith N4ZR <n4zr@contesting.com>
Date: Wed, 29 Feb 2012 16:50:39 -0500
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It is definitely a switcher, Dale.  I didn't know for sure, but kinda 
figured that was how they achieved the wide input voltage range on these 
things.  That, plus the weight hi.

73, Pete N4ZR
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On 2/29/2012 4:36 PM, Dale Svetanoff wrote:
> Pete,
>
> Very interesting, but one big question:  You say that the Radio Shack wall
> wart is regulated.  OK, is it linear or switcher?  One way to tell without
> cutting or sawing it open is to look at the power input requirement.  If it
> says "120 V" only, then it is likely a linear regulator (with an input
> power transformer, rectifiers, a few filter caps, and a 12V regulator chip
> or circuit).  If it says something like "90 to 240 VAC", then it is
> guaranteed to be a switcher and everything you wrote makes sense.
>
> If it is a linear, I do know of a few instances in which linear regulator
> chips (such as LM7812, or equivalent) "took off" as oscillators because
> they were not properly by-passed at their input and/or output pins.  A
> properly functioning linear regulator should not contribute to the noise on
> your system.
>
> 73, Dale
> WA9ENA
>
>
>> [Original Message]
>> From: Pete Smith N4ZR<n4zr@contesting.com>
>> To: RFI List<rfi@contesting.com>
>> Date: 2/29/2012 10:58:07
>> Subject: [RFI] Common mode noise
>>
>> I just built a bias-tee to inject 12 volts into my receive antenna
>> feedline for a relay box and preamp at the far end.  I used what I think
>> is a standard design, with a series 1 mH RF choke and an 0.1 uF bypass
>> capacitor to prevent RF ingress from the DC line coming into the tee.
>>
>> To my surprise, with no antenna connected, the 160M background noise
>> level in a receiver connected to the tee was still several S units
>> higher when the DC supply (a Radio Shack regulated wall wart) was
>> connected than when it was removed.
>>
>> I had a #31 core handy, so I wound 10, then 15, then 20 turns of the
>> parallel wire from the wall wart to the plug on the end.  This
>> progressively reduced the noise being contributed by the wall wart to a
>> level such that I now cannot hear the DC supply on any band above 160
>> meters.
>>
>> I just thought this might be useful info for someone else out there, and
>> I'd also appreciate any critique of the methods I used.
>>
>> -- 
>> 73, Pete N4ZR
>> The World Contest Station Database, updated daily at
> www.conteststations.com
>> The Reverse Beacon Network at http://reversebeacon.net, blog at
> reversebeacon.blogspot.com,
>> spots at telnet.reversebeacon.net, port 7000 and
>> arcluster.reversebeacon.net, port 7000
>>
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