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Re: [RFI] Finding house noise sources

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Subject: Re: [RFI] Finding house noise sources
From: David Cole <dave@nk7z.net>
Reply-to: dave@nk7z.net
Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2016 12:14:41 -0800
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See:

http://www.electrical-online.com/understanding-doorbell-systems/

If it were my house, I'd lift the wire on the C connection on the bell
and see if that changed things...
 
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On Tue, 2016-01-19 at 09:42 -0500, Gary Smith wrote:
> David,
> 
> Not on that circuit but there is a dimmer in the living room. I am 
> going to need to check that out. I know dimmers are known to be a 
> trouble source. I will put that on my list of things to check out.
> 
> I'm going to replace the light socket and flip switches in the known 
> bad circuit and be sure all the electric connections are good and 
> spray deoxit on the connections before tightening.
> 
> 73,
> 
> Gary
> KA1J
> 
> 
> > Do you by chance have any lamp dimmers on that ckt?  Dimable ceiling
> > lights for the kitchen maybe?
> > -- 
> > Thanks and 73's,
> > For equipment, and software setups and reviews see:
> > www.nk7z.net
> > 
> > For MixW support see;
> > http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/mixw/info
> > For Dopplergram information see:
> > http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/dopplergram/info
> > For MM-SSTV see:
> > http://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/MM-SSTV/info
> > 
> > 
> > On Mon, 2016-01-18 at 16:52 -0500, Gary Smith wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > > 
> > > I need some ideas on how to track down some noise sources inside the 
> > > house. I thought it would be just switching off breakers and then 
> > > unplugging the electronics on that circuit till I find the one that 
> > > has failed and deal with that. No, there's more to it that I just 
> > > discovered.
> > > 
> > > For some time I have been having noise on my HI-Z Triangular. It is 
> > > NW of the house. A salt marsh sans anything electric from the S to 
> > > almost N to the West of me. The least noise was N, toward AMTRAK 100' 
> > > away and when I would turn the aiming direction clockwise, I would 
> > > get more RFI until the maximum between the south and the NW. Also, My 
> > > be3am located at the center of the roof identified much the same. I 
> > > quit using the beam because the noise was too much. For the most 
> > > part, the noise seemed to come from the direction of neighbors who 
> > > are only to the SE & S of me.
> > > 
> > > I asked my YL to watch my monitor, connected to the P3, as I flipped 
> > > off breakers. On the 2nd flip she said the noise was gone. The only 
> > > outlets I could find at fault are the overhead light in the hallway 
> > > and one bank of wall plugs in the kitchen. Nothing in the kitchen 
> > > when unplugged stops the interference. Somehow, something unknown 
> > > that is attached to the circuit is causing this problem and I have to 
> > > track that down.
> > > 
> > > The attic was filled with that paper mache kind of blown insulation 
> > > and all of the wires are covered. That will make finding and tracking 
> > > the wire to the overhead light difficult, I have no markers to where 
> > > to safely step. I can do it bit by bit of course but I just can't 
> > > look and follow the wires. In the basement, there is a false ceiling 
> > > that holds the wires and some of them are in an area very difficult 
> > > to access.
> > > 
> > > But the problem remains that when that one circuit is eliminated, 
> > > most if not all the noise goes away and I find nothing attached in 
> > > line except that one overhead light and it was not on when we did the 
> > > test.
> > > 
> > > It was brought to my attention that a defective doorbell transformer 
> > > can cause major issues but the doorbell is not on the same circuit 
> > > and though I looked for that transformer, it's not in the closet or 
> > > anywhere else I can find. The electrician was a gem. Still, I'd like 
> > > to check it out, it's had power on it since 1969.
> > > 
> > > So how might I best localize a source of internal house RFI when 
> > > nothing is plugged in? Is there something like a stud finder that 
> > > will allow me to follow the path of wiring behind walls?
> > > 
> > > Thanks & 73,
> > > 
> > > Gary
> > > KA1J
> > > 
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