Gary,
You make a good point. So far most the growers I have found have been
students and they have not been confrontational. I have been very
careful to point out that I do not care what they are growing, but I do
care about the RFI. Sometimes it takes several visits to establish
rapport. On my first visit to one neighbor, I asked him if he had any
electrical device on a timer. He responded that he resented that I knew
what was going on in his house. He is now a friend and has offered to
go with me when I first approach a grower since he knows most of them in
the neighborhood. It took about a year to establish that relationship.
Because marijuana growing is legal in Colorado, it does make the
situation a bit less volatile.
My hope is that as the grow light ballast become more prevalent, the
industry will realize that they have a problem and fix it. We have
already seen some movement in that direction with some commercial
filters and at least one FCC part 18 compliant ballast.
Tom W0IVJ
On 2/3/2016 11:42 AM, Gary K9GS wrote:
This whole thread on grow light RFI scares the hell out of me.
If this is an illegal growing operation why would you want to confront
your neighbor with knowledge that you know about their illegal
activities? Or what happens if you mention something to your neighbor
and the police happen to raid his house? He is going to think that
you were the one that turned him in. He or his partners could come
after you.
I hope we never have to read about some poor ham getting shot by his
neighbor with an illegal growing operation.
On 2/3/2016 12:00 PM, Tom Thompson wrote:
Ed,
When I find a grow operation in my neighborhood that is causing RFI,
I point out the fact that they are advertising their grow cycle.
Mentioning this generally changes their demeanor, and makes them
eager to place a filter on their ballast.
Tom W0IVJ
On 2/3/2016 10:17 AM, Hare, Ed W1RFI wrote:
Actually, the formal name of ARRL now is ARRL, with American Radio
Relay League still maintained, of course.
Now, as to the noisy grow lights, in some areas, growers are
concerned that law enforcement may find them, but they are even more
concerned that people can use RF noise to identify that there is a
growing operation in a particular house. With the 16hour on/off
cycles during the growing season and a switch to 12 hour cycles as
the crop is nearing harvest, they not only know what it is, but they
know when it is ready for harvest. That has gotten the attention of
growers even in states where it is legal to grow under state law.
Ed Hare, W1RFI
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From: RFI [mailto:rfi-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of John
Brosnahan W0UN
Sent: Saturday, January 16, 2016 7:47 PM
To: Joe Wolfe; RFI@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [RFI] cops zero in on noisy grow light ballasts
Joe,
RE: ARRL and National Association for Amateur Radio
I understand your concern about confusion with the name, but I would
only question the capital letters, because the name American Radio
Relay League is a bit quaint. When I was first license in 1959 it
did not seem to be all that relevant to the actual role of the
national organization, even though I even made BPL once.
While traffic WAS relayed at the time, it was such a small
percentage of what hams do and needed in a national organization,
that the name seemed inadequate at best. And certainly difficult to
explain to non-hams.
In 2016 the name is even less relevant to what the role of the
national organization is now about.
While I am a traditionalist in many senses of the word, I would not
be against the ARRL changing their name to better reflect what it is
they are and what they do.
Just google "National Association for Amateur Radio" and you will
see it reference the ARRL and used to explain what the ARRL actually
is not only on social media but by the ARRL itself.
2 cents worth.
73 John W0UN
On 1/15/2016 8:27 PM, Joe Wolfe wrote:
Least the article could have done, is get their facts straight, I
mean, the author is supposed to be a law enforcement officer.
"National Association for Amateur Radio" Who the heck is that? I
guess he means the ARRL.
I know! I know!
The gist of the story is the RFI we have been dealing with, is now
being used by the police to find illegal grows, which, once word gets
out, could be a big boon to us...HEH, the farms will shut down and in
the end, quiet radio returns to our communities!
Joe - W7RKN
-----Original Message-----
From: RFI [mailto:rfi-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Rob
Atkinson
Subject: [RFI] cops zero in on noisy grow light ballasts
Old story but only heard about it today:
http://www.policeone.com/drug-interdiction-narcotics/articles/8224280-
How-co ps-are-catching-grow-ops-with-AM-radios
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