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Re: [RFI] 15 M noise

To: Bill Price <billp7634@sbcglobal.net>
Subject: Re: [RFI] 15 M noise
From: Don Kirk <wd8dsb@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 19 May 2016 11:14:50 -0400
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"what if Mike can't bake brownies and cookies?"

I've got that covered.  Mike only lives 24 mile from me.  I will go down
there and teach him how to bake.

Don (wd8dsb)

On Thu, May 19, 2016 at 9:43 AM, Bill Price <billp7634@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

>
> I guess my only question would be "what if Mike can't bake brownies and
> cookies?"
>
> Bill  W5LO
>
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* Don Kirk <wd8dsb@gmail.com>
> *To:* "EDWARDS, EDDIE J" <eedwards@oppd.com>
> *Cc:* "rfi@contesting.com" <rfi@contesting.com>; "w9re@comcast.net" <
> w9re@comcast.net>
> *Sent:* Thursday, May 19, 2016 9:30 AM
> *Subject:* Re: [RFI] 15 M noise
>
> While I totally agree that "diplomacy is the key to getting a good
> resolution", during my last two cases of RFI direction finding and
> resolution with the property owners, it was not until I advised them the
> consequences of not addressing the interference that I was able to obtain
> action from the property owners (both were commercial properties).
>
> In both cases the commercial property owners had to purchase input line
> filters for their variable speed drives, but in both cases it took over 6
> months to get them to comply and it was not until I mentioned that inaction
> on their part would result in an official complaint being filed with the
> FCC that they took me seriously.  I hate even mentioning the FCC, but when
> they start getting very defensive and especially non responsive it has
> proven time and time again to be the method that moves things off dead
> center for me.
>
> Note: when I first track down the interference I make a video of the
> interference and post it on youtube so the property owner can take a look
> at it and has a better understanding of the interference issue, and after
> we resolve the problem I bake brownies and cookies and hand deliver them to
> the property owner.
>
> Don Kirk (wd8dsb)
>
> On Thu, May 19, 2016 at 9:11 AM, EDWARDS, EDDIE J <eedwards@oppd.com>
> wrote:
>
> > To expand on Mr. Martin's points, in the ARRL's "RFI Book" the first
> > chapter has excellent recommendations on Personal Diplomacy that every
> ham
> > should read and learn from.  Doesn't matter which direction the RFI is
> > coming from, diplomacy is the key to getting a good resolution.
> >
> > 73, de ed -K0iL
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: RFI [mailto:rfi-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Michael C
> > Martin
> > Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2016 6:54 AM
> >
> > Hello Mike, its not likely to be a 24/7 arc in a house and much more
> likely
> > to be a light or TV. If you'd like to call me I'll go over the approach I
> > would take in this situation. And they are correct, don't mention the FCC
> > or any other authority at this point. Treat it as if you were in their
> > shoes.
> >
> > Mike Martin
> >
> > RFI Services
> >
> > 240-508-3760
> >
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> >
> > On May 18, 2016 6:33:04 PM "Mike Wetzel" <w9re@comcast.net> wrote:
> > > I have had a broadband noise only detectable on 15 meters when my top
> > > antenna (160') is pointed NE.  It is not super strong (S6) and weaker
> on
> > the
> > > lower yagis.  I have had this noise for 8 months now and it has been
> > 24/7,
> > > rain or shine no change.  It sounded like power line noise but today it
> > was
> > > confirmed by my power company as coming from a house about 1200' away
> > from
> > > my antenna.  The house is in a completely underground area.  I took a
> K3
> > > with a mobile antenna over in front of the offending house this
> afternoon
> > > and the noise registered S6 on my K3 where normal noise was S3 and not
> > heard
> > > on any other bands although I did not change mobile antennas.
> > >
> > > Does anyone have any ideas what it might be.  The utility is going to
> > > contact the homeowner next week in my behalf.  Obviously you can see my
> > > towers/antennas from this house.
> >
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