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Re: [RFI] impedance mismatching in coax

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Subject: Re: [RFI] impedance mismatching in coax
From: Aaron Kreider <aaron@campusactivism.org>
Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2016 16:13:31 -0500
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There wasn't any ground. So I should have one of those (though in my city experience, a ground hasn't helped). I'll probably build a better beverage (and terminate it) or KAZ antenna eventually. The soil is rocky.

Goal is to receive MW stations, and LW as a secondary objective. Length was 500-1000 feet (I was wandering around in the woods at dusk - so hard to say).

Aaron

On 12/28/2016 3:58 PM, donovanf@starpower.net wrote:
Jim and Aaron,


If you measure the shield isolation of a 1:1 transformer you'll
discover -- contrary to popular belief -- that it provides only a
modest amount of common mode rejection. K9YC's common
mode chokes are vastly superior.


Aaron never explicitly mentioned the frequency range over
which he intends to operate his Beverageor any of the details
(length, nature of the ground system, etc) for his temporary/quick
Beverage.


73
Frank
w3LPL





----- Original Message -----

From: "JW via RFI" <rfi@contesting.com>
To: "Aaron Kreider" <aaron@campusactivism.org>, rfi@contesting.com
Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2016 8:46:10 PM
Subject: Re: [RFI] impedance mismatching in coax

Aaron,
I found the better option in my case was a 1:1 flux coupled transformer using a 
ferrite core placed at the *receiver* end of the coax feedline.
Background: I had noise up the wazoo before putting the 1:1 xfmr in the shack 
just before the receiver used on a 1/2 height K9AY loop placed in my 
city-lot-sized front yard. With the 1:1 xfmr I could actually see 60 kHz WWVB 
and the WSPR stations the others were seeing on 475 kHz.
I think I used what I had on hand to wind the xfmer, a couple of large #43 
beads and 3 turns primary and also 3 turns secondary. Was it optimum? Probably 
not, but I was at the point where I had to try something, and I got a good 
measure of positive results.
Good luck.
Jim WB5WPA

From: Aaron Kreider <aaron@campusactivism.org>
To: rfi@contesting.com
Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2016 12:02 PM
Subject: [RFI] impedance mismatching in coax

Over Christmas I built a temporary/quick beverage antenna in a rural
area, but it had a very high noise level. I had chokes on everything
which helped, but as I hadn't a lot of planning - I ended up connecting
two pieces of coax together with 50 ohm and 75 ohm reactance.

Would this impedance mismatch cause any problems with the Type 43 toroids?

If not, then I'm guessing I wasn't far enough away from the house (50-75
feet away), and/or the house had a very dirty AC power. The location was
perhaps 20-30 acres - so I could get further away from the house and
electrical lines.

The noise level at 500 khz was around 20-30 uV and below 100 khz there
were spikes up to S9 + 40 db. It was pretty clean above 3-4 mhz (so
this also points to the toroids working better at higher frequencies).

Aaron



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