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Re: [RFI] white noise starting at 3780 and up

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Subject: Re: [RFI] white noise starting at 3780 and up
From: Larry Benko <xxw0qe@comcast.net>
Date: Sun, 16 Jul 2017 12:39:40 -0600
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Jim and others,

I believe the problem has much to do with the cable from the DLSAM to the customer which over the years has been upgraded to be "data" compliant. I think this means more twists per inch and different twist patterns between the various pairs in the cable. There is no getting this cable changed easily. I believe this is a major contributor to why some areas have less uplink VDSL2 interference. We were able to follow the VDSL2 uplink interference along these cables back to the DSLAM with the levels decreasing as we got further away from the subscriber (cable loss).

I would be willing to bet that when the initial VDSL2 tests were being done the link between the DSLAM and the customer was not done with 50 year old cable but I have no solid evidence of this.

Larry, W0QE


On 7/16/2017 11:22 AM, Jim Brown wrote:
On 7/16/2017 6:52 AM, David Robbins wrote:
And complaining to AT&T about something that might be their problem and that
their techs have no idea how to find or fix won't help.

Although I haven't experienced this problem, W0IVJ and W0QE have documented it quite well. I strongly suspect that it is a simple "Pin One Problem" in the defective equipment (probably the DSL or cable modem, but also in the CATV or DSL distro system). If so, it can probably be suppressed a lot by ferrite chokes on cables connected to the defective equipment. Chokes should be wound using the guidelines in my "Choke Cookbook" for the frequencies where the noise is heard. It's part of k9yc.com/RFI-Ham.pdf

73, Jim K9YC

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