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Re: [RFI] Leased Solar Panels: Operator Responsibility?

To: David Eckhardt <davearea51a@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [RFI] Leased Solar Panels: Operator Responsibility?
From: Mike Kirkland <radio.ns6q@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2018 17:34:27 -0700
List-post: <mailto:rfi@contesting.com>
It has been my experience after 2+ years of living with a S9 noise level
that the FCC, the equipment manufacturers and installers, in this case
solaredge and Solar City, and the ARRL could care less.

Okay to be fair the ARRL may claim to care but they're just as ineffective
in advancing any kind of solution.


On Wed, Jun 27, 2018, 4:50 PM David Eckhardt <davearea51a@gmail.com> wrote:

> Based on previous entries on this subject, I contacted my local SolarEdge
> distributor.  I got no sensible reply that even addressed the RFI issue.
> They basically snubbed my specific query about RFI and simply offered to
> rent me a system.  NOT.....They know full well what they are doing.
>
> Our FCC to which a (small) portion of your and my tax monies go to ignores
> Part 15.  They don't care anymore, unless its big business like Time
> Warner.
>
> Dave - WØLEV
>
> On Wed, Jun 27, 2018 at 11:15 PM, Randy Standke <r55stan@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > I wonder if anything in the FCC rules address intentionally installing
> > equipment in a manner known to cause RFI because doing so cuts costs.  I
> am
> > specifically referring to SolarEdge solar power systems.  They know their
> > standard installation of open loop (shaped) wiring between the DC to DC
> > converters on each panel (they call them optimizers), combined with the
> > little or no filtering these optimizers have, cause RFI to the HF bands
> up
> > to about 1000 feet away.  And, they have documented a fix (twisting the
> > wires and adding ferrites).  However, they will only apply this fix when
> a
> > ham radio operator complains.  In my case, they have done this to about
> six
> > houses near me, and I have at least two new houses to locate.
> >
> > They say they plan to introduce a new optimizer in a few years that is
> > clean.  But in the meantime, they are creating RFI polluted neighborhoods
> > all over the country.  This may discourage future hams facing the choice
> of
> > complaining to perhaps a dozen neighbors, or selecting another hobby that
> > does not involve bothering other people.  This seems like the sort of
> thing
> > the FCC should be protecting us from.
> >
> > Randy KQ6RS
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: RFI <rfi-bounces@contesting.com> On Behalf Of David Eckhardt
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2018 12:02 PM
> > To: Hare, Ed W1RFI <w1rfi@arrl.org>
> > Cc: rfi@contesting.com
> > Subject: Re: [RFI] Leased Solar Panels: Operator Responsibility?
> >
> > In the spirit of the FCC rules (I don't want to spend the time looking up
> > the legalize of the wording in 47 CFR), the FCC holds the "System
> > Integrator" responsible for the EMC/RFI solution.  If the equipment is
> > rented, the rentee is the entity that assembled the equipment from many
> > sources to offer, for rent, a complete solar system.  Therefore, the
> rentee
> > is responsible for the EMC/RFI solution.
> >
> > I ain't no lawyer.  However, I've worked in the EMC/RFI field for some 30
> > years addressing and solving problems and regulatory issues in a
> world-wide
> > capacity.  I still consult in the field.
> >
> > Dave - WØLEV
> >
> > On Wed, Jun 27, 2018 at 6:17 PM, Hare, Ed W1RFI <w1rfi@arrl.org> wrote:
> >
> > > In general terms, those that can exert control over a system are the
> > > operators. This could include things like the ability to turn it off
> > > if interference occurs or even would probably be extended in the minds
> > > of regulators to include the people who make the decision to allow
> > > this operation to occur on property they otherwise fully control.
> > >
> > > Ed, W1RFI
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: RFI [mailto:rfi-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Tony
> > > Sent: Monday, November 13, 2017 3:25 PM
> > > To: rfi@contesting.com
> > > Subject: [RFI] Leased Solar Panels: Operator Responsibility?
> > >
> > > All:
> > >
> > > In a case where a homeowner leases a solar panel system from a
> > > manufacture that's causing RFI, who is the responsible operator in the
> > eyes of the FCC?
> > >
> > > Tony -K2MO
> > >
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> > *Dave - WØLEV*
> > *Just Let Darwin Work*
> > *Just Think*
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