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[TenTec] Re: Topband: A/B Testing Limits

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Subject: [TenTec] Re: Topband: A/B Testing Limits
From: ghoffman@spacetech.com (Gary Hoffman)
Date: Wed Jun 25 10:17:32 2003
And ... Good for you, Jim !!

I'm very impressed by the calm, even-handed way in which you have handled
this important discussion.

regards,

Gary, AA2IZ


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jim Reid" <jimr.reid@verizon.net>
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Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2003 1:09 AM
Subject: [TenTec] Re: Topband: A/B Testing Limits


> Aloha all,
>
> I asked,
>
> > "Just believe a real explanation about why is deserved."
>
> And Earl has responded:
>
> > ==========
> > Since my explanation about a week ago I've tried to solve
> > whatever the difference was when I first got the Orion and
> > my later A/B tests.
> >
> > True, when I first tried it on 160m (which was not an A/B test,
> > BTW) I was elated by the apparent results.
>
> Oh,  well ok,  it sounded as if it were an A/B test, but going back
> and reading your May 20th post,  I see you did not claim it to
> be,  fair enough.
>
> Earl continues:
>
> > I've come to the conclusion that tere are two possibilities:
>
> 1) As you may or may not know, when I initially received my
> Orion there was a firmware problem with the preamp ON/OFF.......
>
>  2) The other reason might be that something went awry with
> my Orion.
>
> > My Orion is now at the factory undergoing stringent testing.  If they
> > find something wrong with it and fix it and the radio performs like it
> > appeared to in my initial test, I told them to cancel the refund and
> > return the radio to me.  And, in that case, the Orion will be elevated
> > from its last place position on my list.
> >
> > That's where it stands now.
>
> Outstanding!!  Just as I suspected the entire time,  hi.  The
> initial and test boundary conditions were actually unknown
> during each "test",  and the various,  and much influencing
> Orion parameter settings were not recorded,  so we have
> no idea what the threshold was of the AGC used (though
> Earl has reported that he used the "prog" AGC in his later
> test).
>
> Where "it" stands now, as Earl has reported is exactly the
> correct place.  All is open to further testing AFTER we know
> the condition of the test Orion,  AND we have written down,
> and reported ALL the conditions of the various Orion parameter
> settings.  This was all required in my engineering notebook
> when I was at Raytheon,  Zenith Radio,  etc.  in those long,
> long ago bygone days,  hi.
>
> Earl is on the correct path now.  Good for him!
>
> Mahalo and 73,  Jim  KH7M
>
>
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