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Re: [TenTec] real CW ops

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Subject: Re: [TenTec] real CW ops
From: "DaveHeller" <k3tx@fast.net>
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Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2005 11:45:36 -0400
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100% agree.  The keyboard-sending is bad enough.  Dave, K3TX    *****On
an entirely different topic I'd like input on a current project here.
Our local township, Falls, in Bucks Co, PA (across the Delaware from
Trenton NJ, has just purchased a Winnebago set up as a mobile
(obviously) command post for emergency work.  I had planned to approach
those in charge about an Am Radio provision therein but the chief beat
me to it, asking if we (local club, Penn Wireless) could "assist" with
the position.  I've been appointed (by club) as the coordinator;  at the
meeting there was the comment that I'd not be likely to suggest anything
but Ten-Tec;  the answer from me was obvious, for the obvious reasons. .
. .  What we're obviously needing is a reasonably compact set-up with
provisions for phone CW, packet and PSK31. Ease of operator break-in and
dependability are essential.  The less gadgetry the better.  I'm
advising low band + 2/432 coverage.   Any advice and suggestions
welcome.

-----Original Message-----
From: tentec-bounces@contesting.com
[mailto:tentec-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Steve N4LQ
Sent: Saturday, April 09, 2005 2:20 AM
To: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment
Subject: Re: [TenTec] real CW ops

What I can't stand is these guys using keyboards at 30 wpm and sending 
PERIODS at the end of each sentence. Man that sounds liddy.

Steve Ellington
N4LQ@iglou.com
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "DaveHeller" <k3tx@fast.net>
To: "'Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment'" <tentec@contesting.com>
Sent: Friday, April 08, 2005 10:36 PM
Subject: Re: [TenTec] real CW ops


> My own opinion, for what it's worth, as a near 100% CW op:  The
computer
> sending, though theoretically technically perfect, sounds so
artificial
> that I find it not the best to copy.  The keyer with iambic paddle has
> some individuality, but by far the best is the plain old straight key
> when in the hands of a real artist.  Of course that breed is few and
far
> between, but the sound is pure music.  (I use an iambic paddle and
have
> enough trouble sending copyable with it.)  How many traffic ops
remember
> W3ADE who would have celebrated his 100th birthday this spring had he
> not become a SK a couple years ago.  Well past his 95th birthday Lew
and
> his straight key and his Omni V had no equal!
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: tentec-bounces@contesting.com
> [mailto:tentec-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Scott / W4PJ
> Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 3:35 PM
> To: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment
> Subject: Re: [TenTec] real CW ops
>
> I often use an old homebrew semi-automatic bug.  I'm told I still have
> that
> "Lake Erie Swing."
> Sometimes when I'm cooking along at 35 40 wpm on Iambic paddle, I
might
> switch back to the bug.
> You woulod probably be interested to know how many times I get a
requeat
> to
> repeat when I do that.  I must believe then that those "real CW ops"
> were
> using some kind of reader, perhaps a computer to "do" CW.
>
> Like any language, some of us have an accent.  <G>  'Puters don't do
> accents.
>
> I can still send CW on a straight key with a good fist at 22 WPM.  If
> you
> can really copy CW, that is.
>
> PEACE
> Scott / W4PJ
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Jim Davis" <nn6ee@yahoo.com>
> To: "Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment" <tentec@contesting.com>
> Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 2:39 PM
> Subject: Re: [TenTec] real CW ops
>
>
>> Grant!
>>
>> Nah you're WRONG!
>> Real CW ops use a Iambic paddle if the really care
>> about the proper spacing/intelligibility @ the other
>> end. Rag-chews with a straight key are for youngsters,
>> as nowadays my wrists are'nt as flexible as they use
>> to be (they hurt)!!!  :-)))
>> *********************************************
>> --- Peg Haese <haesem@uwplatt.edu> wrote:
>> > REAL ops use a straight key.
>> >
>> > Peg KB9LIE in SW Wisconsin (and yes, I have had QSOs
>> > with my Nye straight
>> > key, although more recent Qs have been with a
>> > Bencher and now a beautiful
>> > LTA set of paddles)
>> >
>> > > Of course real CW ops use a bug anyway :-)
>> > >
>> > > Grant/NQ5T
>
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