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Re: [TenTec] 30-day Return Policy

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Subject: Re: [TenTec] 30-day Return Policy
From: "Bernard(wtrone)" <wtrone@comcast.net>
Reply-to: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment <tentec@contesting.com>
Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2005 10:33:04 -0500
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    Ken: you are correct!  I did not read the post carefully enough to 
realize that Tommy was quoting another ham.  But, my comments stand.  What 
is the "rest of the story?"

    I wonder if that person was Yuri?

        73s,

        Bernard, WA4OEJ


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ken & Linda Burrough" <w8keb@1st.net>
To: "Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment" <tentec@contesting.com>
Sent: Saturday, July 23, 2005 9:36 AM
Subject: Re: [TenTec] 30-day Return Policy


> Bernard, Tommy did not say this happened to him.  With that said I know 
> the people that this happened to .  This is for real and did happen.
>
> Now since I have been a Ten-Tec user and fan since 1980 this upset me to 
> the point I had to take a sleeping pill last night after reading about 
> this.
>
> As a long time Ten-Tec user I except to hear from Mr. Jack Burchfield.  I 
> am excepting Mr. Burchfield to give a full and honest reason for this to 
> happen.  the reflector will be enough for me.
>
> Now if this posting puts me on the "BLACK LIST"  so be it.  All things 
> change in life and I will find other equipment to use and maybe enjoy as 
> much as I have my Ten-Tec Equipment.
>
> Ken/w8keb
> Flushing, Ohio
>
>  ----- Original Message ----- 
>  From: Bernard(wtrone)
>  To: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment
>  Sent: Saturday, July 23, 2005 9:38 AM
>  Subject: Re: [TenTec] 30-day Return Policy
>
>
>      Tommy: not to flame you, but I wonder what the other side of the 
> story
>  is?  Every time I have seen a story such as yours on this or other
>  reflectors, I have been very surprised when the "other" side presents 
> their
>  argument.
>
>      I must admit that, at face value, you have not been fairly treated. 
> If
>  the "facts" are correct as you present them, then shame on TenTec!!!!! 
> It
>  sounds, from your side, that you had technical rationale for your 
> returns.
>
>      These boards have become very negative since the announcement of the
>  Orion II.  I have never seen such a big bunch of "cry babies."  I didn't 
> see
>  any such thing on the ICOM board when the PRO  III was announced.  Wonder
>  why??  And, I wonder how many of the negative comments are really from 
> Orion
>  owners?  In my strong opinion, there are some non-owners who frequent 
> this
>  board who get great delight out of criticizing the Orion.
>
>      In any case, I really hope that TenTec reconsiders that decision and
>  sells you an Orion II
>
>      Best of luck.
>
>              73s,
>
>
>              Bernard, WA4OEJ
>
>
>  ----- Original Message ----- 
>  From: "Tommy" <aldermant@alltel.net>
>  To: <tentec@contesting.com>
>  Sent: Saturday, July 23, 2005 7:48 AM
>  Subject: [TenTec] 30-day Return Policy
>
>
>  > One of the things we, as hams, have always liked about Ten Tec is
>  > their new gear return policy. It has always seemed to be very
>  > generous and above board. Ten Tec's 30-day return policy as defined
>  > on their web site:
>  >
>  > "30 day return policy: All new and demo (non-kit) Ten-Tec equipment
>  > sold factory direct is sold on a 30 day trial period. If within 30
>  > days of purchase you decide not to keep the equipment it may be
>  > returned to us for a purchase price refund, less shipping charges.
>  > Please call our sales department at (800) 833-7373 or (865) 453-7172
>  > and request a return merchandise authorization number - this will
>  > greatly speed up the processing of your refund. Return items to
>  > Ten-Tec, 1185 Dolly Parton Parkway, Sevierville, TN 37862. Include a
>  > note with any returned equipment with your name, address, and
>  > telephone number and the RMA number. For equipment sold through our
>  > international dealers, it is at their discretion to set their own
>  > sales and return policies."
>  >
>  > However, all is not quite as neat and clean as we have always
>  > thought. It turns out that if you return a new product under their
>  > generous policy, that MAY be reason for them to refuse to sell you
>  > another one of their products. In addition, if you give a fair and
>  > honest evaluation of their product on eHAM, but it is not a favorable
>  > review, or one to their liking, this too, may be reason for them to
>  > refuse to sell you another radio.
>  >
>  > As I already have enough good Ten Tec radios, this will not affect me
>  > personally, however I think it is important for all of the ham
>  > community to know how this 30-day return policy really works. Again,
>  > buyer beware! I have permission from the writer of these email to
>  > reproduce this:
>  >
>  > "xxx, you and I are not the only ones who have been given the cold
>  > shoulder by T-T.   I have talked to others today who had a similar
>  > experience.  Here is my response to T-T sent to them just now.  You
>  > can share it with your friends if you wish.
>  >
>  > Why Stan, I am profoundly disappointed in you and T-T for taking this
>  > attitude and refusing to sell me an Orion 2.  Sour grapes Stan or
>  > lack of faith in the reliability and performance of your
>  > products?  Not only is your refusal to sell me the Orion 2 in
>  > violation of state and federal trade laws it's just bad form to treat
>  > a fellow ham in this manner.  Because T-T doesn't care to make public
>  > their hidden policy of rejecting purchase orders based on
>  > unsatisfactory reviews of their equipment or services appearing on
>  > such media as eHam I have decided to share your response with our
>  > fellow amateurs on the ham bands, most of whom by the way have
>  > responded with "I told you so" or "we had similar problems with T-T".
>  >
>  > I will be looking for you at the next Dayton Hamvention Stan.
>  >
>  > Until then Stan, sit down, take a pill, and have a nice day...
>  >
>  > xxx
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  > Subject: RE: Icom 7800
>  >
>  > HI xxxx, what a pleasure to hear from you again.  I haven't been on
>  > 40m lately due mainly to a combination of band conditions and QRN in
>  > this area from summer storms.  In addition, I have been tied up
>  > selling our second home down in xxxxxxxxxxx.
>  >
>  > Yes, I decided to put my 7800 up for sale in order to buy either an
>  > FTDX-9000 or the new Orion 2.  The 7800 is a wonderful radio but I
>  > just wanted to try something else and I was caught up with the hype
>  > on the Orion 2 and sent in my order for one this morning.  Guess what
>  > came back a few hours later?  You won't believe this but below is a
>  > cut and past of the reply I got from Stan Brock at T-T:
>  >
>  > Dear xxx:
>  >
>  > We thank you for your interest in the new Ten-Tec Orion II.  I am
>  > sorry, because
>  > of previous RMA's and eham reviews we are unable to provide the style 
> of
>  > radio which will meet your requirements.  Your order has been deleted.
>  >
>  > 73,
>  > Stan Brock, WD0BGS
>  > Amateur Radio Sales
>  >
>  > A couple of years ago I ordered one of their Jupiter transceivers
>  > only to find out after it arrived that it had performance
>  > problems.  I called TT and discussed the issues and they said to
>  > return it and they would replace it.  They did that with another
>  > Jupiter only this time the receiver in that Jupiter was found to have
>  > lots of birdies and very poor sensitivity on the 17m-10m bands.  I
>  > sent it back asking for a refund under their 30 return policy.  Thus
>  > the RMAs their talking about.  I made the mistake (??) of giving them
>  > a rather poor review on eHam and apparently they are holding this
>  > against me now and refusing now to sell me an Orion 2.  xxxx, you
>  > don't want to hear what I now think about T-T's management and their
>  > products.  I think what they have done is not only in violation of
>  > state and federal trade laws it is simply bad form to snub a fellow
>  > amateur.  Oh well, live and learn.  They just bought themselves a
>  > load of bad publicity if anyone ever asks me about T-T.
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  > So, there you have it xxxx.  I guess some guys like me are never
>  > satisfied. hi hi.
>  >
>  > CU on the bands and till then 73,
>  >
>  > Xxx XXXXX
>  >
>  >
>  > CW is for REAL hams !
>  >
>  >     Tommy - W4BQF
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