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Subject: Re: [TenTec] Ocean noise
From: "ROBERT CARROLL" <w2wg@comcast.net>
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Date: Sun, 12 Feb 2006 13:09:39 -0500
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Band noise on 160m was very low last night.  I ran gain at 100%.  No ocean
noise.  Worked 3y0x on 160m.  Usually on 160m here the band noise is much to
high to run so much gain.

Bob W2WG

-----Original Message-----
From: tentec-bounces@contesting.com [mailto:tentec-bounces@contesting.com]
On Behalf Of Larry Menzel
Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2006 11:20 AM
To: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment
Subject: Re: [TenTec] Ocean noise

Jeeze, me either!

I'm listening on 75 right now, and, with the RFgain turned to 100% there is 
NO noise, nada, none, zip on either my O1 or my O2!

High band noise, like 75 at night, is expected, is it not?

My Orions are both not noisy.

Dunno.

Larry, N0XB

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ron" <ron@morell.us>
To: "Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment" <tentec@contesting.com>
Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2006 1:14 PM
Subject: Re: [TenTec] Ocean noise


> This is a very strange thread.  I've never heard Ocean noise on my 
> ORION...
> What am I doing wrong, that I don't get to hear this particular noise?
>
> I have heard static and natural interference type noise, especially during
> storm activity and I've heard impulse noise, and electric fence noise, and
> electric motor noise, and fluorescent light noise, but have not heard the
> ocean noise.  I find that with normal signals the receiver is almost
> completely quiet.
>
> What are you guys talking about?
> Ron KA7U
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: tentec-bounces@contesting.com
> [mailto:tentec-bounces@contesting.com]On Behalf Of Chortek, Robert L
> Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2006 11:51 AM
> To: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment
> Subject: Re: [TenTec] Ocean noise
>
>
> No,
>
> I have heard you need to reduce the gain but when you put both rigs side 
> by
> side with no antenna the Orion has much moee internal noise.  I think it 
> is
> just a fact of life.
>
> Any suggestions?
>
> 73
>
> Bob. AA6VB
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: RM [mailto:royalct@inr.net]
> Sent: Sat Feb 11 10:31:26 2006
> To: 'Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment'
> Subject: Re: [TenTec] Ocean noise
>
> Any chance the Noise Reduction (NR) is active?
>
>
> Ron, NU1U
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: tentec-bounces@contesting.com [mailto:tentec-bounces@contesting.com]
> On Behalf Of Chortek, Robert L
> Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2006 13:19
> To: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment
> Subject: Re: [TenTec] Ocean noise
>
> I have the same issue.  Much more noise than my FT1000D.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Thomas Tow [mailto:ttow1@charter.net]
> Sent: Sat Feb 11 09:30:15 2006
> To: tentec@contesting.com
> Subject: [TenTec] Ocean noise
>
> Turning down the rf gain was the first thing I tried. Down to 
> 50-60%..still
> a LOT more noise than should be and much more than the MK 5. I still 
> suspect
> it is some setting but I have not had the time to mess with it. Probably
> won't for several days so after my next bout with it, if I find it I will
> report. To those who requested the updates, I will get to those also. 73,
> Tommy WD4K
>
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>   1. Re: Now UPS Strikes Again (Robert & Linda McGraw K4TAX)
>   2. Re: Ten Tec User Net Activity (John Nason / NA9U)
>   3. Re: Now UPS Strikes Again (Lew)
>   4.  hearing the ocean (Bill Tippett)
>   5. WTB- Accessories for 540 (Danny Shaver)
>   6. Re: Ten Tec User Net Activity (Martin, AA6E)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2006 07:49:42 -0600
> From: Robert & Linda McGraw K4TAX <RMcGraw@Blomand.Net>
> Subject: Re: [TenTec] Now UPS Strikes Again
> To: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment <tentec@contesting.com>
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> Yes, but how does one protect from puncture through two boxes, the outside
> one & inside one, puncture through two layers of 2" thick rigid foam and
> thus leaving dents 1/4" deep and scratches on the equipment?
>
> No drop involved.
>
> 73
> Bob, K4TAX
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Lew" <ljl160@verizon.net>
> To: "Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment" <tentec@contesting.com>
> Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2006 12:09 AM
> Subject: Re: [TenTec] Now UPS Strikes Again
>
>
>>I learned that packing for UPS must withstand a good 6 foot  drop at
>>minimum
>> I live near a main UPS drop off and I've seen just from the counter to 
>> the
>> back room what happens. DHL is my new mode of shipping- its been very 
>> good
>> so far. K1NDV
>>
>> -------Original Message-------
>>
>> From: Robert & Linda McGraw K4TAX
>> Date: 02/10/06 23:11:52
>> To: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment
>> Subject: [TenTec] Now UPS Strikes Again
>>
>> UPS is an absolute pain in the behind company to do business with.  I too
>> received a package via UPS in October.  It was a "drop and run" job thus
>> no
>> signature.  Damaged to such extent the outside of the box was torn, the
>> inside packing was damaged, the inside box was torn and the inside 
>> packing
>> damaged as well as the radio equipment.  Filed a claim with UPS, then 
>> they
>> said it had to go back through the shipping agent and they'd have to make
>> a
>> claim.  Then they said the damage was due to inadequate packing.  Come on
>> folks, it doesn't take a high school drop-out to figure that one out.
>> Well
>> what would one expect?  I guess if it were in a iron box it might have
>> made
>> it.  Oh well the story continues.
>>
>> Well all was done as they requested.  Pictures made and sent as 
>> requested.
>> Package delivered to the local UPS office as requested.  On and On and On
>> and On.  Finally, I figured that their tactic was to stall and stall and
>> stall and perhaps I'd just go away.  Well I didn't.  I persisted in being
>> a
>> thorn in their behind day after day after day.  Finally, after 4 months I
>> got a check but only after they got a letter from my attorney and then a
>> summons to appear in local court.
>>
>> 73
>> Bob, K4TAX
>>
>>
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> ------------------------------
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> Message: 2
> Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2006 06:27:13 -0800 (PST)
> From: John Nason / NA9U <na9u@arrl.net>
> Subject: Re: [TenTec] Ten Tec User Net Activity
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> I have been hearing the net about 2:00 PM Central time
> on or about 7.251.  Much QRM from broadcasters.  I
> just got my O2 so I will be interested in seeing how
> all the filtering will handle the carriers.
>
> 73,
> John NA9U
>
> --- David Hammond <dhhdeh@concentric.net> wrote:
>
>> Hi Everyone,
>>
>> Could someone please post the latest
>> date/time/frequency info on any Ten Tec User Net
>> Activity?
>>
>> Thanks in advance.
>>
>> Best 73 de N1LQ-Dave
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> Message: 3
> Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2006 09:32:48 -0500 (Eastern Standard Time)
> From: "Lew" <ljl160@verizon.net>
> Subject: Re: [TenTec] Now UPS Strikes Again
> To: "Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment" <tentec@contesting.com>
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> The puncture wounds are new to me!  Probably fork lift damage maybe???   I
> have even double boxed and used some indoor -outdoor carpet along with
> everything else however it adds weight to the shipping cost.  I think that
> DHL drivers have a vested interest in making things arrive in good 
> shape-so
> I hear. I shipped out a dozen or so items since last summer via DHL and it
> worked for me. They were fast and cheaper than most. I even sent a large
> cubical quad out west and it arrived in good shape. The package was 13 ft
> long x 1 ft  diam and about 50 lbs!   73 Lew/KlNDV
>
> -------Original Message-------
>
> From: Robert & Linda McGraw K4TAX
> Date: 02/11/06 09:06:12
> To: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment
> Subject: Re: [TenTec] Now UPS Strikes Again
>
> Yes, but how does one protect from puncture through two boxes, the outside
> one & inside one, puncture through two layers of 2" thick rigid foam and
> thus leaving dents 1/4" deep and scratches on the equipment?
>
> No drop involved.
>
> 73
> Bob, K4TAX
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Lew" <ljl160@verizon.net>
> To: "Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment" <tentec@contesting.com>
> Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2006 12:09 AM
> Subject: Re: [TenTec] Now UPS Strikes Again
>
>
>>I learned that packing for UPS must withstand a good 6 foot  drop at
>>minimum
>> I live near a main UPS drop off and I've seen just from the counter to 
>> the
>> back room what happens. DHL is my new mode of shipping- its been very 
>> good
>> so far. K1NDV
>>
>> -------Original Message-------
>>
>> From: Robert & Linda McGraw K4TAX
>> Date: 02/10/06 23:11:52
>> To: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment
>> Subject: [TenTec] Now UPS Strikes Again
>>
>> UPS is an absolute pain in the behind company to do business with.  I too
>> received a package via UPS in October.  It was a "drop and run" job thus
>> no
>> signature.  Damaged to such extent the outside of the box was torn, the
>> inside packing was damaged, the inside box was torn and the inside 
>> packing
>> damaged as well as the radio equipment.  Filed a claim with UPS, then 
>> they
>> said it had to go back through the shipping agent and they'd have to make
>> a
>> claim.  Then they said the damage was due to inadequate packing.  Come on
>> folks, it doesn't take a high school drop-out to figure that one out.
>> Well
>> what would one expect?  I guess if it were in a iron box it might have
>> made
>> it.  Oh well the story continues.
>>
>> Well all was done as they requested.  Pictures made and sent as 
>> requested.
>> Package delivered to the local UPS office as requested.  On and On and On
>> and On.  Finally, I figured that their tactic was to stall and stall and
>> stall and perhaps I'd just go away.  Well I didn't.  I persisted in being
>> a
>> thorn in their behind day after day after day.  Finally, after 4 months I
>> got a check but only after they got a letter from my attorney and then a
>> summons to appear in local court.
>>
>> 73
>> Bob, K4TAX
>>
>>
>>
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> Message: 4
> Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2006 09:42:06 -0500
> From: Bill Tippett <btippett@alum.mit.edu>
> Subject: [TenTec]  hearing the ocean
> To: tentec@contesting.com
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> WD4K wrote:
>
> >not including my trip to the ocean when I turn it on. :)
>
>         Before you throw it in the ocean, try
> turning RF Gain down until the noise drops.
> This is exactly the point I was making before
> about users not setting RF Gain correctly and
> complaining "My Orion is noisy".  :-)
>
>                                 73,  Bill  W4ZV
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2006 09:19:11 -0600
> From: "Danny Shaver" <n5nbk@nortexinfo.net>
> Subject: [TenTec] WTB- Accessories for 540
> To: <tentec@contesting.com>
> Message-ID: <000e01c62f1e$83212670$037dfea9@DannyShaver>
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>
> I am still looking for accessories for my 540 (triton IV). I am primarily
> looking for the digital readout and the 160 meter converter, but would
> consider complete stations, or even a 544. Must be in good condition
> electrically and cosmetically.
>
> Thanks- Danny
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2006 10:48:25 -0500
> From: "Martin, AA6E" <martin.ewing@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [TenTec] Ten Tec User Net Activity
> To: na9u@arrl.net, Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment
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> I checked in once.  Good news, bad news.  Good: the Orion can pull
> weak ham sigs out from between the broadcasters.  Bad:  It's still
> hard to get through on 100W -- no fun on the East Coast!  Why can't
> there be a better time / freq?  Mornings on 40 or evenings on 80 seem
> like a better deal.
>
> 73 Martin AA6E (in CT)
>
> On 2/11/06, John Nason / NA9U <na9u@arrl.net> wrote:
>> I have been hearing the net about 2:00 PM Central time
>> on or about 7.251.  Much QRM from broadcasters.  I
>> just got my O2 so I will be interested in seeing how
>> all the filtering will handle the carriers.
>>
>> 73,
>> John NA9U
>>
>
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