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1. Re: Lousy eHam review (wo8l@aol.com)
2. Re: Lousy eHam review (jmalloy)
3. Lousy eHam review (John Rippey)
4. Re: Lousy eham review (Brad Bradford)
5. Re: Lousy eHam review? (William Lee)
6. Re: Lousy eHam review? (jack)
7. Re: Lousy eHam review? (Donald Watters)
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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 03 Jul 2006 20:11:33 -0400
From: wo8l@aol.com
Subject: Re: [TenTec] Lousy eHam review
To: tentec@contesting.com
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Hi,
I hope the guy who wrote the review will take my e-mail address and sell
me the rig for $100.
73s,
Rick
-----Original Message-----
From: John Rippey <jrippey@3n.net>
To: tentec@contesting.com
Sent: Sat, 1 Jul 2006 19:21:42 -0700
Subject: [TenTec] Lousy eHam review
I just read a review on eHam.net of the Jupiter. The ham gives it a
"0" and calls it "junk." No specifics, just "junk." He complains that
his first review disappeared from the eHam web site, and I hope it
was done on purpose. What possible value is such a dumb "review"?
73,
John, W3ULS
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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 04 Jul 2006 00:47:03 -0400
From: jmalloy <jmalloy@stny.rr.com>
Subject: Re: [TenTec] Lousy eHam review
To: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment <tentec@contesting.com>
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Toby Pennington wrote:
I was just forwarded an email from the poster of the Lousy eHam Review
describing his experience with the Jupiter and Ten Tec. He seemed to
have
some very real issues with the Jupiter including RF problems which could
not
be resolved. His ground system was installed under his house when it was
built, and all his other rigs worked very well and he has quite a few
well
known rigs. Other issues involved how he was handled by Ten Tec
personel.
It seems like someone may have dropped the ball at TT to some extent.
I have had really bad rf problems before and it can drive you nutty
trying
to fix it. The guy was fed up and it shows in his post. Happy July 4th
all!
I don't know what the problem is (I have my thoughts about it, though)
with some people and the Jupiter, but I had one for a few years before
trading it in on the Orion and I thought it was a pretty good radio.
Transmit audio was very nicely adjustable, receive audio was plentiful,
and the software was field updatable and stable. No RF or grounding
problems here and I used it on all bands, modes and power levels with
nary a problem (and believe me, I didn't have a very advanced antenna
system at the time (still have a basic, but better one) or grounding
system -- a G5RV and a pipe 8' in the ground!). I'm not a DX'er but
worked numerous countries on all the upper bands (okay, maybe the
sunspots had something to do with it!). As far as I was concerned, it
was and, as far as I know, a great radio -- for its price point.
Maybe some people expect more.
73,
Joe, W2RBA
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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 4 Jul 2006 13:23:36 -0700
From: John Rippey <jrippey@3n.net>
Subject: [TenTec] Lousy eHam review
To: tentec@contesting.com
Message-ID: <33410901-4CF8-4A7B-A3A6-E924DE2DE9C9@3n.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed
I appreciate all of the comments. Even though the reviewer may have
had some valid issues with the Jupiter, I cannot but feel sorry for
any brand-new hams who might stumble across his "review." Totally
unhelpful and full of bile. What is a newbie to think?
Aren't we supposed to be attempting to bring new blood into the
hobby? This kind of posting cannot be helpful in that regard. Oh,
well . . .
A satisfied Jupiter owner wishing a Happy Fourth to all.
73,
John, W3ULS
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Message: 4
Date: Tue, 04 Jul 2006 13:06:59 -0500
From: "Brad Bradford" <y2kbrad@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: [TenTec] Lousy eham review
To: tentec@contesting.com
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Well, I just read the E-review on the Jupiter being rated "JUNK". I've
learned a couple of things worth mentioning:
1. from the work go??? Did he mean the WORD go or can he NOT SPELL WORD -
Dah!!
2. If a person is POSTING their comments, and WON't comment on his/her
findings, then it must have been that time of the month, so how can you
intelligently interpret what ISN't there? Dah!!
3. Now it has been OFFICIALLY CONFIRMED, "THAT YOU CAN HOLD AN EXTRA CLASS
LICENSE AND BE A IDIOT AT THE SAME TIME!! Dah!!
But I do agree that the Jupiter is "JUNK"!!
"J" Stands for Jupiter
"U" United States Engineered and Manufactured
"N" New "SDR" Technology
"K" Stands for a KEEPER!!
His comments, albeit may not be appreciated, THANK GOD this is America,
and
he has the right to say so. Thank GOD the Constitution DOES NOT state
that
you have to be INTELLIGENT to be PROTECTED!!
Guess I'll go listen to Rush Limbaugh and watch the Simpson's on TV!! No,
I'm going to turn on my JUPITER and listen in the Extra Class segment of
the
bands and maybe I'll learn something!! Dah!!
Brad Bradford
W9GOD / NNN0PKC Navy Marine Corps MARS
<html><DIV><FONT color=#009966>With appreciation(!!) </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#009966></FONT></DIV><FONT color=#009966>Very truly
yours,
</FONT>
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=#009966></FONT></DIV><FONT color=#009966><IMG height=12
src="http://graphics.hotmail.com/emsmile.gif"; width=12>Brad Bradford<IMG
height=12 src="http://graphics.hotmail.com/emsmile.gif";
width=12></FONT></html>
From: "Phil Chambley, Sr." <k4dpk@comcast.net>
Reply-To: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment <tentec@contesting.com>
To: "Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment" <tentec@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [TenTec] Lousy eham review
Date: Mon, 3 Jul 2006 22:12:42 -0400
Occasionally, one happens to buy a radio that is just a little smarter
than
the buyer.
Phil
VFO Stabilizers and PEP adapters for wattmeters...Check out
http://home.comcast.net/~k4dpk
----- Original Message -----
From: "Rob Atkinson, K5UJ" <k5uj@hotmail.com>
To: <tentec@contesting.com>
Sent: Monday, July 03, 2006 10:05 PM
Subject: [TenTec] Lousy eham review
I read that one a day or two ago. At the time I thought it probably came
from an inexperienced ham. Could be wrong but to me that's the way it
looked. I'm not a big jupiter fan but this kind of review is not useful.
rob / k5uj
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Message: 5
Date: Tue, 4 Jul 2006 14:58:54 -0500
From: "William Lee" <n5wrx@stx.rr.com>
Subject: Re: [TenTec] Lousy eHam review?
To: <kg6tt@arrl.net>, "Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment"
<tentec@contesting.com>
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Jerry, now that was a good objective review of your experiences and
opinions
about Ten Tec radios.
Well worded and a good read.
Thanks.
I am a Ten Tec fan and enjoy my Paragon and Pegasus but have been strongly
considering the Orion.
The only thing that has kept me from buying one has been the cost HI Hi.
However, I have been hearing more and more good things about the Omni VI+.
Is the VI+ reciever really that much better than the Paragon or is it a
matter of features and controls?
Perhaps I should find a good VI + (within my curent budget) and wait a
year
or so to see where the Orion will go.
William Lee N5WRX
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jerry Volpe" <kg6tt@arrl.net>
To: <tentec@contesting.com>
Sent: Tuesday, July 04, 2006 12:41 PM
Subject: Re: [TenTec] Lousy eHam review?
It is too bad that the poster did not bother to try to explain himself.
And of course the '0' rating is a dead giveaway of someone who is having
a very bad day. :) However I think there is a tendency to 'circle the
wagons' whenever someone speaks out against the fold!
I don't think that there is anyone who actually knows me that could say
that I am not a Ten-Tec fan. I currently have and use twelve different
Ten-Tec transceivers and amplifiers in my shack and had my first Ten-Tec
well over 30 years ago. And I always enjoy an opportunity to 'share the
Ten-Tec' experience with others. It was rather amazing to see two very
experienced CW contesters at Field Day who had never seen a Ten-Tec
before. They were amazed at how well the Omni-IV+ worked... how
intuitive too. Fact is that there are probably hundreds of thousands of
hams in the US who have never actually seen a Ten-Tec in person. Shame.
Having said that, and getting back on topic, let me add my own
observations and experiences regarding the Jupiter and more importantly
perhaps some recent shifts in attitudes and abilities at Ten-Tec. Some
of my own 'Jupiter' experiences genuinely soured me a bit and have
actually kept me from investing in an Orion as yet.
1. I bought a new Jupiter a bit over two years ago and used it as my
primary rig for six months. Used it every day. Fought the RF demons et
al. There were aspects of the Jupiter that I did appreciate.
Nevertheless I had many dissatisfactions. Far too many for a rig that
cost me nearly $2000 delivered (ps, speaker, keypad, etc). So when
someone volunteered an even trade.... my Jupiter for their Omni-VI+ it
didn't take me long to say yes and I have never looked back! I LOVE the
Omni-VI+. It nicely fills the need in my shack for a serious DX and
contest machine. There is simply no comparison between it and the
Jupiter. Now of course Ten-Tec will be the first to say you can't
compare Apples and Oranges. Yet I say you can as the same money a ham
has to spend for the Jupiter will net them the Omni-VI+ (topic for a
different discussion).
In fact, of all the Ten-Tec rigs that I have owned then sold or traded
only two come to mind as non-regrets.... the Jupiter and its brother the
RX-350. Never-the-less I would not give either a '0' rating, but
probably a '3' and feel comfortable doing so. Had Ten-Tec sold these for
about $400 less I would probably rate them a '4'. Remember, my opinion.
2. This part bothers me far more than the quirks of the Jupiter.... the
subtle but very apparent shift in attitudes at Ten-Tec these last years.
Technical support and development appears to be generally strong, yet
there is a sense that they are 'over tasked' and I think it shows at
times. In addition there appears to be a slow reduction of Ten-Tec
offerings as well. Inside information suggests that a key developer
responsible for the core of Ten-Tec's DSP technology left the company.
This had to have an impact. It did when I worked as an engineer at
Heathkit and someone with a unique skillset to a product development
left the company. It is also my sense that the Orion project seriously
depleted other Ten-Tec enterprises for the past perhaps three years,
maybe four.... and to me that is unfortunate. I guess for Orion and
Orion II owners though it only seems fair. I have my doubts though as
there are far larger markets that could be addressed more effectively.
Lastly there is a sense of marketing insincerity taking place at
Ten-Tec. Who writes their ad copy??? One only needs to look at the
Jupiter (and previous Pegasus) ads and the trumpeted statements like
"Never Gets Old...... New Updates"... blah, blah, blah. Yet those of us
who bought the RX-350 (which hasn't seen an update since 2002 and has
definite 'bugs'.... yes BUGs) only to be told that development ceased on
this product some time back yet the 'forward thinking' ads continue....
And the Pegasus?... And the Jupiter? Yes there was finally a mild
firmware update to the Jupiter earlier this year, but it was rather mild
and inconsequential overall. Oh let us not forget the original Orion
owners who would still like to finally benefit from the version 2
firmware work and have a genuinely stable and reliable Orion (1), but
there most certainly hasn't been a lock-step in development between the
two transceivers. Maybe this means nothing. Maybe it simply means that
there are limited resources and the lion's share goes to the darling of
the moment. Maybe it explains why so many Orion owners are dumping a one
or two year old transceiver to buy the newer version. My gosh! We have
become Icom!
Have a great Fourth of July!
Jerry, KG6TT
Fairfield, CA
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Message: 6
Date: Tue, 4 Jul 2006 17:16:11 -0600
From: "jack" <jfriend31@comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [TenTec] Lousy eHam review?
To: "Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment" <tentec@contesting.com>
Message-ID: <000601c69fbf$d9366b30$7dbe0a18@homes5bvzdaouw>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
reply-type=original
don't wait! i like the Orion (1) so much i have two (2) of them! bought
the
second when i decided i have two antennas so i need 2 Orions!
jack ak7o
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From: "William Lee" <n5wrx@stx.rr.com>
To: <kg6tt@arrl.net>; "Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment"
<tentec@contesting.com>
Sent: Tuesday, July 04, 2006 1:58 PM
Subject: Re: [TenTec] Lousy eHam review?
Jerry, now that was a good objective review of your experiences and
opinions
about Ten Tec radios.
Well worded and a good read.
Thanks.
I am a Ten Tec fan and enjoy my Paragon and Pegasus but have been
strongly
considering the Orion.
The only thing that has kept me from buying one has been the cost HI Hi.
However, I have been hearing more and more good things about the Omni
VI+.
Is the VI+ reciever really that much better than the Paragon or is it a
matter of features and controls?
Perhaps I should find a good VI + (within my curent budget) and wait a
year
or so to see where the Orion will go.
William Lee N5WRX
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jerry Volpe" <kg6tt@arrl.net>
To: <tentec@contesting.com>
Sent: Tuesday, July 04, 2006 12:41 PM
Subject: Re: [TenTec] Lousy eHam review?
It is too bad that the poster did not bother to try to explain himself.
And of course the '0' rating is a dead giveaway of someone who is having
a very bad day. :) However I think there is a tendency to 'circle the
wagons' whenever someone speaks out against the fold!
I don't think that there is anyone who actually knows me that could say
that I am not a Ten-Tec fan. I currently have and use twelve different
Ten-Tec transceivers and amplifiers in my shack and had my first Ten-Tec
well over 30 years ago. And I always enjoy an opportunity to 'share the
Ten-Tec' experience with others. It was rather amazing to see two very
experienced CW contesters at Field Day who had never seen a Ten-Tec
before. They were amazed at how well the Omni-IV+ worked... how
intuitive too. Fact is that there are probably hundreds of thousands of
hams in the US who have never actually seen a Ten-Tec in person. Shame.
Having said that, and getting back on topic, let me add my own
observations and experiences regarding the Jupiter and more importantly
perhaps some recent shifts in attitudes and abilities at Ten-Tec. Some
of my own 'Jupiter' experiences genuinely soured me a bit and have
actually kept me from investing in an Orion as yet.
1. I bought a new Jupiter a bit over two years ago and used it as my
primary rig for six months. Used it every day. Fought the RF demons et
al. There were aspects of the Jupiter that I did appreciate.
Nevertheless I had many dissatisfactions. Far too many for a rig that
cost me nearly $2000 delivered (ps, speaker, keypad, etc). So when
someone volunteered an even trade.... my Jupiter for their Omni-VI+ it
didn't take me long to say yes and I have never looked back! I LOVE the
Omni-VI+. It nicely fills the need in my shack for a serious DX and
contest machine. There is simply no comparison between it and the
Jupiter. Now of course Ten-Tec will be the first to say you can't
compare Apples and Oranges. Yet I say you can as the same money a ham
has to spend for the Jupiter will net them the Omni-VI+ (topic for a
different discussion).
In fact, of all the Ten-Tec rigs that I have owned then sold or traded
only two come to mind as non-regrets.... the Jupiter and its brother the
RX-350. Never-the-less I would not give either a '0' rating, but
probably a '3' and feel comfortable doing so. Had Ten-Tec sold these for
about $400 less I would probably rate them a '4'. Remember, my opinion.
2. This part bothers me far more than the quirks of the Jupiter.... the
subtle but very apparent shift in attitudes at Ten-Tec these last years.
Technical support and development appears to be generally strong, yet
there is a sense that they are 'over tasked' and I think it shows at
times. In addition there appears to be a slow reduction of Ten-Tec
offerings as well. Inside information suggests that a key developer
responsible for the core of Ten-Tec's DSP technology left the company.
This had to have an impact. It did when I worked as an engineer at
Heathkit and someone with a unique skillset to a product development
left the company. It is also my sense that the Orion project seriously
depleted other Ten-Tec enterprises for the past perhaps three years,
maybe four.... and to me that is unfortunate. I guess for Orion and
Orion II owners though it only seems fair. I have my doubts though as
there are far larger markets that could be addressed more effectively.
Lastly there is a sense of marketing insincerity taking place at
Ten-Tec. Who writes their ad copy??? One only needs to look at the
Jupiter (and previous Pegasus) ads and the trumpeted statements like
"Never Gets Old...... New Updates"... blah, blah, blah. Yet those of us
who bought the RX-350 (which hasn't seen an update since 2002 and has
definite 'bugs'.... yes BUGs) only to be told that development ceased on
this product some time back yet the 'forward thinking' ads continue....
And the Pegasus?... And the Jupiter? Yes there was finally a mild
firmware update to the Jupiter earlier this year, but it was rather mild
and inconsequential overall. Oh let us not forget the original Orion
owners who would still like to finally benefit from the version 2
firmware work and have a genuinely stable and reliable Orion (1), but
there most certainly hasn't been a lock-step in development between the
two transceivers. Maybe this means nothing. Maybe it simply means that
there are limited resources and the lion's share goes to the darling of
the moment. Maybe it explains why so many Orion owners are dumping a one
or two year old transceiver to buy the newer version. My gosh! We have
become Icom!
Have a great Fourth of July!
Jerry, KG6TT
Fairfield, CA
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Message: 7
Date: Tue, 4 Jul 2006 20:29:52 -0300
From: "Donald Watters" <dwatters@ns.sympatico.ca>
Subject: Re: [TenTec] Lousy eHam review?
To: "Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment" <tentec@contesting.com>
Message-ID: <003d01c69fc1$c06f1e10$0a02a8c0@DJQ2BX41>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
reply-type=original
Lee -
Should you decide on an OMNI 6 plus, by all means get a late model that
has
the factory installed VCXO and surface mounted components. The late rigs
have very few birdies unlike the earlier production which has many..
I had an early model that I was very fortunate to sell before I got a late
model
direct from T-T. Good luck, OM.
73 Don, VE1BN
----- Original Message -----
From: "William Lee" <n5wrx@stx.rr.com>
To: <kg6tt@arrl.net>; "Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment"
<tentec@contesting.com>
Sent: Tuesday, July 04, 2006 4:58 PM
Subject: Re: [TenTec] Lousy eHam review?
Jerry, now that was a good objective review of your experiences and
opinions
about Ten Tec radios.
Well worded and a good read.
Thanks.
I am a Ten Tec fan and enjoy my Paragon and Pegasus but have been
strongly
considering the Orion.
The only thing that has kept me from buying one has been the cost HI Hi.
However, I have been hearing more and more good things about the Omni
VI+.
Is the VI+ reciever really that much better than the Paragon or is it a
matter of features and controls?
Perhaps I should find a good VI + (within my curent budget) and wait a
year
or so to see where the Orion will go.
William Lee N5WRX
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jerry Volpe" <kg6tt@arrl.net>
To: <tentec@contesting.com>
Sent: Tuesday, July 04, 2006 12:41 PM
Subject: Re: [TenTec] Lousy eHam review?
It is too bad that the poster did not bother to try to explain himself.
And of course the '0' rating is a dead giveaway of someone who is having
a very bad day. :) However I think there is a tendency to 'circle the
wagons' whenever someone speaks out against the fold!
I don't think that there is anyone who actually knows me that could say
that I am not a Ten-Tec fan. I currently have and use twelve different
Ten-Tec transceivers and amplifiers in my shack and had my first Ten-Tec
well over 30 years ago. And I always enjoy an opportunity to 'share the
Ten-Tec' experience with others. It was rather amazing to see two very
experienced CW contesters at Field Day who had never seen a Ten-Tec
before. They were amazed at how well the Omni-IV+ worked... how
intuitive too. Fact is that there are probably hundreds of thousands of
hams in the US who have never actually seen a Ten-Tec in person. Shame.
Having said that, and getting back on topic, let me add my own
observations and experiences regarding the Jupiter and more importantly
perhaps some recent shifts in attitudes and abilities at Ten-Tec. Some
of my own 'Jupiter' experiences genuinely soured me a bit and have
actually kept me from investing in an Orion as yet.
1. I bought a new Jupiter a bit over two years ago and used it as my
primary rig for six months. Used it every day. Fought the RF demons et
al. There were aspects of the Jupiter that I did appreciate.
Nevertheless I had many dissatisfactions. Far too many for a rig that
cost me nearly $2000 delivered (ps, speaker, keypad, etc). So when
someone volunteered an even trade.... my Jupiter for their Omni-VI+ it
didn't take me long to say yes and I have never looked back! I LOVE the
Omni-VI+. It nicely fills the need in my shack for a serious DX and
contest machine. There is simply no comparison between it and the
Jupiter. Now of course Ten-Tec will be the first to say you can't
compare Apples and Oranges. Yet I say you can as the same money a ham
has to spend for the Jupiter will net them the Omni-VI+ (topic for a
different discussion).
In fact, of all the Ten-Tec rigs that I have owned then sold or traded
only two come to mind as non-regrets.... the Jupiter and its brother the
RX-350. Never-the-less I would not give either a '0' rating, but
probably a '3' and feel comfortable doing so. Had Ten-Tec sold these for
about $400 less I would probably rate them a '4'. Remember, my opinion.
2. This part bothers me far more than the quirks of the Jupiter.... the
subtle but very apparent shift in attitudes at Ten-Tec these last years.
Technical support and development appears to be generally strong, yet
there is a sense that they are 'over tasked' and I think it shows at
times. In addition there appears to be a slow reduction of Ten-Tec
offerings as well. Inside information suggests that a key developer
responsible for the core of Ten-Tec's DSP technology left the company.
This had to have an impact. It did when I worked as an engineer at
Heathkit and someone with a unique skillset to a product development
left the company. It is also my sense that the Orion project seriously
depleted other Ten-Tec enterprises for the past perhaps three years,
maybe four.... and to me that is unfortunate. I guess for Orion and
Orion II owners though it only seems fair. I have my doubts though as
there are far larger markets that could be addressed more effectively.
Lastly there is a sense of marketing insincerity taking place at
Ten-Tec. Who writes their ad copy??? One only needs to look at the
Jupiter (and previous Pegasus) ads and the trumpeted statements like
"Never Gets Old...... New Updates"... blah, blah, blah. Yet those of us
who bought the RX-350 (which hasn't seen an update since 2002 and has
definite 'bugs'.... yes BUGs) only to be told that development ceased on
this product some time back yet the 'forward thinking' ads continue....
And the Pegasus?... And the Jupiter? Yes there was finally a mild
firmware update to the Jupiter earlier this year, but it was rather mild
and inconsequential overall. Oh let us not forget the original Orion
owners who would still like to finally benefit from the version 2
firmware work and have a genuinely stable and reliable Orion (1), but
there most certainly hasn't been a lock-step in development between the
two transceivers. Maybe this means nothing. Maybe it simply means that
there are limited resources and the lion's share goes to the darling of
the moment. Maybe it explains why so many Orion owners are dumping a one
or two year old transceiver to buy the newer version. My gosh! We have
become Icom!
Have a great Fourth of July!
Jerry, KG6TT
Fairfield, CA
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Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.8/381 - Release Date: 7/3/2006
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