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Re: [TenTec] An accessory idea for the new Omni VII

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Subject: Re: [TenTec] An accessory idea for the new Omni VII
From: "HUGHESRO" <ROGERH@realtracs.com>
Reply-to: ROGERH@realtracs.com,Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment <tentec@contesting.com>
Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2006 11:23:45 -0500
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You go boy. Duane, that's me also. Years and years ago when licensed and not 
much gear, I made things, built filters, power supplies.etc.. Just trying to 
hear better or sound better. That is Ham Radio. Whatever can get you there 
legally is advancement to my station. I'm glad I went thru that as I sure 
learned alot as I am not an engineer or in the elect field. Just a retired 
Military Officer. My computer control and logging greatly assists me. I am 
working toward a remote base to use at my office and for other Hams to use who 
don't hve or can't hve ants or towers. I really feel gud about that. That's 
really Ham radio. Hams helping Hams.  I'll shut up now. CUL Roger, W4IV
---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
From: Duane - N9DG <n9dg@yahoo.com>
Reply-To: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment <tentec@contesting.com>
Date:  Sun, 20 Aug 2006 14:51:54 -0700 (PDT)

>Duane - Note to self: Do not plan on humor as a new career
>should I ever need to find new one. Two attempts at humor in
>the last couple days were not universally taken as such.
>
>If some on HF took my "DC" remark as a slight then the some
>folks on VLF might really be bothered by my "Negative RF"
>nickname for the spectrum below the AM BCB. And then a
>humorous spin of the oft expressed sentiment that PC's should
>*never* be mixed with or closely integrated with "radio"
>seems to have suffered a similar fate. Oh well....
>
>As for the Omni VII accessory idea I am completely serious
>about having such a thing. I think that there is a very real
>and useful purpose for such a device, it would really make
>the Ethernet feature of the VII that much better. My joke
>about not needing a computer is sincerely in the context that
>there are times that you would not want to use a PC for
>whatever reason. There's nothing wrong with that. And if you
>go back and look at my various posts related to this topic
>over the years you'd see I have pretty much always
>acknowledged that.
>
>But on the flip side I will come out swinging if someone
>tries to tell me:
>
>1) The efforts to intermix PC's with radios such as SDR's
>and/or graphical user interfaces "can't work".
>
>2) "Isn't real radio".
>
>3) Shouldn't be done or even pursued simply because they
>don't like it or understand the idea.
>
>4) That it has never been done that way before "so why would,
>or should, anyone want to try any new and different things
>now".
>
>5) That tightly integrating computers with radios somehow
>*always* equates to the "automation" of the QSO making
>process to a level of "why bother operating radio anymore if
>the computer is doing all the work".
>
>Well in my current Pegasus configuration and the
>configurations that I'm pursuing for the future the sentiment
>in item 5 is *completely* backwards. The stuff I have done
>already actually *increases* the amount of "radio" that I do
>with my very own ears, there has been no PC processing of
>QSO's for more than 99% of all the QSO's that I've made to
>date. The PC's are simply making me aware of more signals
>than I could with traditional radios. The few that were "PC
>processed" were only by virtue of the mode's design or
>protocol - not my station's configuration.
>
>The saying that "you can't work them if you can't hear them"
>is indeed 100% true; but to that I will add my own two axioms
>that say:
>
>1) "You can't hear them if you don't know where they are".
>
>2) "You may never hear them if you can't get to them quickly
>enough".
>
>These two items drive 90% of why I'm so completely on board
>with PC based SDR's. My personal *requirement* for achieving
>this is to do it without the use of *anything* that is
>outside of the equipment that is *wholly* contained within my
>station. However *anything* that I can build into my station,
>be it either hardware, or software, is fair game to achieve
>those two goals. To me that *is* ham radio in its purest form
>and fully captures the spirit and intent of Part 97.1(b).
>
>Duane
>N9DG
>
>
>--- Ken Brown <ken.d.brown@hawaiiantel.net> wrote:
>
>> Duane - N9DG wrote:
>> >   those pesky computers that are ruining ham radio 
>> >   
>> Huh?
>
>
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