I wish to receive the information on transceivers Omny7, Orion2, about their
improvements, the price both where and as it is possible to buy. Where it is
possible to see this information? Yours faithfully - Pavel /UT7CA/.
22.01.08, 20:00, tentec-request@contesting.com:
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> 1. Re: Omni VI Dilema (Bob McGraw - K4TAX)
> 2. Re: Omni VI Dilema (Wayne Whitman)
> 3. FS: Omni VI (option 3) and Argo V packages (Buhyoff, Greg)
> 4. Re: Orion/Orion II questions (RaySoifer@cs.com)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2008 21:19:12 -0600
> From: "Bob McGraw - K4TAX" <RMcGraw@Blomand.net>
> Subject: Re: [TenTec] Omni VI Dilema
> To: "Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment" <tentec@contesting.com>
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> If you have the funds and can find a clean late serial number Omni VI Plus,
> go for it. Other wise, a Omni VI opt is a good performing radio.
> Here's some history supplied by others from this link:
> http://www.tentecwiki.org/doku.php?id=563upgrade
> <snip>
> Ten-Tec offers three options-ranging from $75 to $275-to upgrade your
> existing OMNI VI (Model 563) to include some or all of the new features of
> the OMNI VI Plus.
> Here's the rundown:
> a.. Option 1: For $75, you can get a kit in the mail that will let you add
> DSP noise reduction, move the DSP low-pass filter to the front panel,
> upgrade the menu, and add the new tuning speed feature. Ten-Tec says the
> mods are easy to install. The procedure requires replacing two socketed ICs
> on the logic board and putting three new labels on the front-panel keypad.
> When ordering, you'll need to give Ten-Tec the number on the IC in your rig
> labeled "logic." This will assure the correct firmware. The serial number
> alone is not sufficient. To order, call 800-833-7373 or write Ten-Tec, 1185
> Dolly Parton Pkwy, Sevierville, TN 37862-3710.
> b.. Option 2: For $125, you can get factory installation of all the
> features in Option 1, plus Ten-Tec will replace all nine keypad buttons
> instead of applying new sticker-type legends.
> c.. Option 3: For $275, Ten-Tec will do a "complete factory upgrade" to an
> OMNI VI Plus. This includes everything in Option 2 plus replacement of the
> two circuit boards and wiring harness changes needed to add an optional
> filter position in the 9-MHz IF. Ten-Tec says options 2 and 3 will only be
> offered for a limited time. Call 800-833-7373 if you're interested, and
> you'll
> be put on a waiting list. You must pay shipping to Ten-Tec, but there is no
> charge for return shipping for customers in the continental US.
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >From the Ten-Tec Reflector December 22, 2001
> There were three upgrade paths offered for the original Omni VI:
> 1.. Option 1 added the VI+ DSP and firmware, and re-assigned front panel
> keys were provided with stickers to indicate their new functions
> 2.. Option 2 was Option 1 plus new keys, rather than the stickers
> 3.. Option 3 was Option 2 plus the VI+'s 9 Mhz filter board that provided
> two narrow filter positions rather than one as in the original Omni VI.
> The factory considers Option 3 to be equivalent to the Omni VI+, and it is
> with the exception of the front panel labeling.
> I have been extremely satisfied with my Omni VI/Opt 1 that I purchased
> second-hand from another list member. I have filled all of the filter
> positions with Ten-Tec filters, and the radio performs very well for CW and
> PSK31. Between it and my Elecraft K2, I don't see the need for another rig
> and I find myself using the Omni VI most of the time.
> John Clifford KD7KGX
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> September 11, 2002
> IMO the recent questions regarding the 563 and 564 are well worth
> understanding and commenting on and is not just "beating a dead horse". With
> so many Omni VI's and VI+'s now on the used market folks want to know what's
> up.
> I bought my Omni VI 563 in November 1996, one of the last Omni VI's that
> were made. I sold it this past June. Being initially disappointed in the
> prospects of the forthcoming Orion I bought an Icom 756 Pro II, a fantastic
> transceiver (but we will leave that for another time.)
> In July 1997 my Omni VI was returned to TenTec for the "Option III upgrade"
> which gave the Omni VI the electrical performance of an Omni VI+. Since 1997
> the newer Omni VI+'s underwent many minor factory changes to eliminate
> problems and improve performance from earlier productions runs. IMO the
> cumulative impact of these minor changes is significant.
> Here are some of the notable things I know of in no particular order:
> a.. The silk-screening of the 564 has the "Plus" on it (dah.)
> b.. The 564 has a different font silk-screened on the input keys from the
> 563 keypad. Noticeable side by side
> c.. The later 564's replaced the crystal oven with a 2ppm TCXO on the
> logic board, probably the best enhancement TT did to this radio. The crystal
> oven eventually "cooks out" and will not hold frequency tolerances well. Try
> aligning one and getting it to hold frequency. The TXCO fixes that problem.
> d.. The later 564's use slightly different BFO crystal frequencies (9.0003
> USB and 9.0033LSB/CW) from earlier units, apparently to improve the alleged
> CW key click problem
> e.. The later 564's have certain changes to top and bottom foil grounding
> on certain boards to improve 10M birdies which are a major problem with this
> rig.
> f.. The BPF filter on later 564's has a broadcast band mod to improve
> intermod in the presence of strong local AM BCB or SW signals. Night and Day
> difference on my rig.
> g.. An aftermarket mod from INRAD is available to improve the SSB audio
> response involving a swap of two component values. This became a
> semi-approved factory mod. Stock audio is degraded by passing through the
> DSP chip when DSP is not engaged
> h.. Later 564's use significant amounts of SMT construction
> There are others. I just have forgotten them.
> If there is no difference in the 563 Upgrade III and a 564 why did TT change
> the model number, name and affix a special label on the back of Omni VI
> upgrades to distinguish them from the Omni VI+?
> There are indeed differences. An early 563 and a late 564 are very different
> radios in many respects aside form the advertised feature differences.
> IMO to advertise a 563 upgrade III as a 564 as I have seen done on the
> auction sights is misleading.
> As for me, I still have my Omni V.9 using Carl's fabulous processor chip
> upgrade. Man what receive audio! It stays in this shack backing up the Pro
> II.
> All for now.
> 73 de N1LQ-Dave
> <snip>
> 73
> Bob, K4TAX
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Newell Crary" <ncrary@owt.com>
> To: <tentec@contesting.com>
> Sent: Monday, January 21, 2008 4:20 PM
> Subject: [TenTec] Omni VI Dilema
> >I have been trying to decide what radio to buy. I have a Scout and want to
> > upgrade to an Omni. I have read a post that talked about subtle changes
> > TT
> > made to the OMNI series over the production years. The poster said "An
> > early
> > 563 and a late 564 are very different radios in many respects aside from
> > the
> > advertised differences.." Not knowing what these changes were or what
> > they
> > corrected, would it be better to look for a late model VI+ or go for a VI
> > Option III?
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks for your input. Also, if you have one of these little beasties for
> > sale, send me an email with the particulars.
> >
> >
> >
> > Newell
> >
> > WX7K
> >
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> ------------------------------
> Message: 2
> Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2008 21:31:05 -0600
> From: "Wayne Whitman" <wwhitman@fastmail.fm>
> Subject: Re: [TenTec] Omni VI Dilema
> To: "Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment" <tentec@contesting.com>
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> Add the Inrad cw roofing filter to the Omni VI/VI+ and according to
> Inrad specs, it's 2khz IMD dynamic range is between an Orion and an
> Orion II as compared to Sherwood Engineering data.
> I'm running an Orion II next to an Omni VI+ and I can usually copy weak
> cw signals a tiny bit better on the Omni VI+.
> Completely subjective, based on my hearing.
> Your mileage may vary, but for cw work, I prefer the Omni, but I'm not
> giving up the Orion II.
> Make sure you know what filters are installed in a used Omni before
> buying.
> On Mon, 21 Jan 2008 20:39:15 -0600, "Bob McGraw - K4TAX"
> <RMcGraw@Blomand.net> said:
> > One way to tell. If the model/SN label says 564 it is an Omni VI Plus.
> > If
> > it says 563 it is an Omni VI. Located below the Tentec logo the front
> > panel
> > clearly says Omni VI Plus if it is a Plus. The upgrades options #1, #2
> > and
> > #3 are not applicable to the Omni VI Plus, model 564.
> >
> > http://www.tentecwiki.org/lib/exe/detail.php?id=transceivers&cache=cache&media=564.jpg
> >
> > We've had many a discussion where folks have sold or tried to sell a 563
> > with opt 3 upgrade as a Plus. It has many of the same features as a true
> > Plus but the market places a higher dollar value on the Omni VI Plus as
> > compared to the Omni VI. I've also known of some unhappy buyers thinking
> > they were buying a Omni VI Plus when indeed they ended up with a Omni VI
> > opt
> > 3 but paid the higher price. Let the buyer beware.
> >
> > 73
> > Bob, K4TAX
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Denton" <denton@oregontrail.net>
> > To: "Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment" <tentec@contesting.com>
> > Sent: Monday, January 21, 2008 7:44 PM
> > Subject: Re: [TenTec] Omni VI Dilema
> >
> >
> > > Well..hmmmm....
> > > front panel says...
> > > omni vi plus upgraded....and documentation I got with the rig specifies to
> > > option 3.
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "John Cox" <jecox@tri-lakes.net>
> > > To: "Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment" <tentec@contesting.com>
> > > Sent: Monday, January 21, 2008 5:10 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [TenTec] Omni VI Dilema
> > >
> > >
> > >> How do you update an Omni VI Plus to Option 3? Did you mean an Omni VI
> > >> updated to Option 3.
> > >> 73
> > >> John Cox kc0yai
> > >>
> > >> ----- Original Message -----
> > >> From: "Denton" <denton@oregontrail.net>
> > >> To: "Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment" <tentec@contesting.com>
> > >> Sent: Monday, January 21, 2008 6:30 PM
> > >> Subject: Re: [TenTec] Omni VI Dilema
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>> Hi Newell....I'm over here in Pendleton....have an Omni vi plus upgraded
> > >>> to
> > >>> option 3 that I am considering selling.....
> > >>> What do you have for a power supply? Mic?
> > >>> ----- Original Message -----
> > >>> From: "Newell Crary" <ncrary@owt.com>
> > >>> To: <tentec@contesting.com>
> > >>> Sent: Monday, January 21, 2008 2:20 PM
> > >>> Subject: [TenTec] Omni VI Dilema
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>>I have been trying to decide what radio to buy. I have a Scout and want
> > >>>>to
> > >>>> upgrade to an Omni. I have read a post that talked about subtle
> > >>>> changes
> > >>>> TT
> > >>>> made to the OMNI series over the production years. The poster said "An
> > >>>> early
> > >>>> 563 and a late 564 are very different radios in many respects aside
> > >>>> from
> > >>>> the
> > >>>> advertised differences.." Not knowing what these changes were or what
> > >>>> they
> > >>>> corrected, would it be better to look for a late model VI+ or go for a
> > >>>> VI
> > >>>> Option III?
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Thanks for your input. Also, if you have one of these little beasties
> > >>>> for
> > >>>> sale, send me an email with the particulars.
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Newell
> > >>>>
> > >>>> WX7K
> > >>>>
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> 73,
> Wayne
> K4ELO
> k4elo@fastmail.fm
> ------------------------------
> Message: 3
> Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2008 08:27:13 -0500
> From: "Buhyoff, Greg" <buhyoff@vt.edu>
> Subject: [TenTec] FS: Omni VI (option 3) and Argo V packages
> To: <tentec@contesting.com>
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> Omni VI (option 3), cosmetically excellent; has optional voice
> synthesizer board and full filter complement. Puts out 85-98 watts all bands
> as measured using Bird 43 and LP-100A terminated with 50 ohm load with SWR of
> 1.18. Fully functional. Am second owner and bought from Scott Robbins'
> (W4PA)father. Full original manual with all amendments. Filters as
> follows: 9 MHz IF has Inrad #754 2.8 Hz, and TT 217 500 Hz. 6 MHz IF has
> Inrad #755 (2.8 KHz) in place of TT 2.4 KHz; TT #288 (1.8 KHz); TT #285 (500
> Hz) and TT #282 (250 Hz). Ten-Tec #219 (also include TT #219 250 Hz for 9
> MHz and original TT 2.4 KHz for 6 MHz so you can fit filter combinations as
> you see fit). Original box. Asking price is $1100 shipped lower 48. Have
> photos. Sell only as full package of radio and all filters.
> Argonaut V - 516F with TXCO, optional heat sink fan and hand mic. SN
> 08C10065 -- has TT TX audio mod done by TT and latest firmware installed.
> Perfect condition except for one light (not deep) scratch on top of cabinet
> (have photos). Perfect working condition and not used since back from TT for
> stuck button and overall check-up. They found nothing out of spec and fixed
> the button. Complete original manual. Original owner. TT hand mic included.
> Will throw in neat Elecraft T1 tuner (max 20 W) with manual for complete
> small portable package - neat tuner ($100 value). Asking $625 shipped,
> insured lower 48. Sell only as package.
> Greg K2UM --- K2UM@vt.edu <mailto:K2UM@vt.edu> - phone only 10 A.M. to 4
> P.M. Eastern 540-951-4097
> ------------------------------
> Message: 4
> Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2008 09:24:03 EST
> From: RaySoifer@cs.com
> Subject: Re: [TenTec] Orion/Orion II questions
> To: tentec@contesting.com
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> In a message dated 1/22/2008 12:46:44 AM GMT Standard Time,
> barry.n1eu@gmail.com writes:
> > In terms of immunity from W1AW, my biggest concern would be that their
> > tx signal is clean. If their tx signal is clean, you'll be fine with
> > the Orion main rx.
> >
> We don't have a lot of BC stations out here in the desert, but I'm about 5
> miles from a ham who will go anonymous because he puts out several times as
> much
> power on 160 as W1AW. The O2 roofing filters take him out almost entirely --
> all but his key clicks.....
> Ray W2RS
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