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Re: [TenTec] G5RV

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Subject: Re: [TenTec] G5RV
From: "Frank Holladay" <holladayfd@multipro.com>
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Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2009 15:23:07 -0600
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There is a LOT of difference between 100 feet and 199 metres!
Frank, K4VMO

----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Hunt" <steve@karinya.net>
To: "Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment" <tentec@contesting.com>
Sent: Sunday, February 01, 2009 2:50 PM
Subject: Re: [TenTec] G5RV


Jerry,

Yes, I'm sure. According to the VK1OD on-line calculator, at 3.8 MHz 100m of RG213 with 14-j1 as a load has a loss of 1.9dB; 100m of Wireman 551 with 14-j1 as the load has a loss of 3.1dB. I'm not saying the difference is particularly significant - I'm just pointing out that ladderline is not always lower loss than coax - it depends on the load impedance.

Incidentally, be wary of those ARRL charts which tell you what the "excess loss" is for a particular VSWR - they are approximations. There are some particular situations where a 1:1 VSWR produces more loss than with a higher VSWR. here's an example:

Take 15ft of RG213 with a load of 100+j100. At 3.8 MHz the loss with this 4.3:1 VSWR is 0.025dB, whereas the matched loss is over twice this at 0.055dB. I know these are ridiculously small losses, but I'm just illustrating the fallacy of thinking you can add a fixed "extra loss" figure for some particular VSWR value.

73,
Steve G3TXQ

Dr. Gerald N. Johnson wrote:
Are you sure? Using data and formulae in the 1994 ARRL Antenna Book, I
see 100' of RG213 has 0.6 dB loss at 4 MHz when matched, and 1.066 dB
with a 3.6:1 SWR. 1" spaced window line has 0.027 dB (had to stretch the
loss chart by a factor of ten for that line) per 100' matched and 0.41
dB loss with the SWR of 32:1.

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