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Re: [TenTec] [Fwd: Line Isolator Balun (sorta) question.]

To: Stuart Rohre <rohre@arlut.utexas.edu>
Subject: Re: [TenTec] [Fwd: Line Isolator Balun (sorta) question.]
From: "Dr. Gerald N. Johnson" <geraldj@weather.net>
Reply-to: geraldj@weather.net, Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment <tentec@contesting.com>
Date: Mon, 09 Aug 2010 18:29:24 -0500
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With so few radio/tv makers in this country practically no distributors 
stock "radio" parts, only computer parts.

A couple sunspot minimums ago (at the approach of that minimum), I took 
on the design of a pocket radio for Ditto Heads that wanted to listen to 
15.420, WRNO afternoons. I looked at Plessey parts, they had some 
interesting ones in their catalog, quoted me only 50 weeks delivery of 
samples. I took that as a hint that they needed 50 weeks to see if they 
really could make what was in the catalog. I found a pocket AM radio at 
RS with an interesting Toshiba chip. Called Toshiba US, asked about the 
part number, they said, "That's not a valid part number." To which I 
reminded them I had one in my hand with that year's date code. Toshiba 
didn't sell linear chips in the US, only digital. It was such a good 
chip that I experimented with it after getting some data from the 
nearest Toshiba rep and then designed it in, going through a broker to 
import chips from Japan going around their distributors. I probably 
learned more about the chip than everyone at Toshiba other than the 
designer. The following sunspot minimum killed the radio and that 
shortwave station. But I took my cut as a fixed price design project and 
it worked decently when there was any propagation at all, but the fellow 
that packaged it took several months of the few remaining working on a 
custom case when he should have bought and machined a stock case to save 
months on the mold making process. "But with the mold in hand, cases are 
almost free!" he said. Yah, after $50K for the molds and the electronic 
design only cost $8K. 'Twasn't my money once I got paid.

SMT is the wave and tiny SMT the future. The working parts of 
transistors have been tiny for half a century. I was visiting a 
transistor line supervisor from TI for supper once, and he noticed a 
black thing under his finger nail about the size of a pepper grinding, 
but he looked closer and announced it was a transistor die. The packages 
even then were just for human handling. Now a chip that size may include 
a thousand transistors and be barely visible and with machine assemble 
its practical to mount it on a board with others like it so the device 
(the radio or thumb drive or ipod) package is empty, but just big enough 
to be handled by ordinary hands.

I have used a few SMT parts in the past, but just acquired three SMT 
projects. One, a Softrock Lite II for practice, and then a 10 GHz preamp 
and an 10 GHz power amp to put on the air. First I have to finish moving 
and set up a SMT work station with good magnification and a tiny 
soldering iron and in a quiet spot no where near a carpet. I suspect the 
classic design of a jeweler's or watch makers bench with side and back 
boards to catch flying parts, and a catch rail under the front edge with 
a drape to connect that to the pants to catch those parts trying to 
escape behind the user could be a handy design, especially for 0402 SMT 
parts. The magnification is a Cambridge (copy of Bausch and Lomb) 
Stereozoom 7.

Mouser and Digi-Key have been good for some styles of prototyping, I get 
parts from the faster than I used to get quotes from Newark, before 
Newark and I had a tiff. Some vendors are pretty good about engineering 
samples for prototypes and some aren't. The USPS and the brown trucks 
are my replacement for the local distributor that dried up, not keeping 
parts on hand but saying, "I can order them." To which I said, "I can 
order them too, but I would have liked to have had them TODAY, not next 
week."

73, Jerry, K0CQ

On 8/9/2010 4:28 PM, Stuart Rohre wrote:
> Amen to the supply issues!
> That is a moving target on some once common items today. Through hole
> parts vs. SMT parts in common and specialized functions for example.
>
> We lost one of our few stocking local distributors a couple months back.
> A real pain for small quantity prototyping now.
>
> Stuart
> K5KVH
>
>
>
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