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Re: [TenTec] Omni 6 Logic Board Failure

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Subject: Re: [TenTec] Omni 6 Logic Board Failure
From: NL7VL <neal.laugman@gmail.com>
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Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2011 13:19:03 -0600
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Robb,

I was actually referring to the glut of TT rigs on ebay and elsewhere.
I plan on contacting Ten-Tec tomorrow and discussing some possibilities
with them regarding this matter. Having a spare is not a bad idea, and I
do have a "spare" Corsair II (and I'll admit it - I have a "Corsair I"
too), but the Omni VI (+) is still a pricey piece of gear ($1000 -
$1500) and I just can't quite bring myself to have an extra one sitting
around. The Corsair II is a pretty impressive receiver in regard to
handling weak signals and architecturally, the Omni VI's RF circuits
are near perfect IMHO for what is now called "old-school' design - and
I can work on them.

Further, I couldn't imagine me not being satisfied with the performance
of a VII or Orion II, but after a lifetime of being around
microprocessors and PCs, I just don't want it in a radio. It reminds me
of work, but that's just me and I realize I'm in the minority.

-- 
 Neal, NL7VL

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On Mon, 17 Jan 2011 11:23:36 -0700
"Robb Urie" <rurie@mywdo.com> wrote:

>How about "Paperweights" or "Door stops"?
>
>I have an Omni 6+, original owner and just hope not to have the
>dreaded Logic board failure.  But along with my B/C-line and TR-7
>Drakes, the Ten Tec's just keep plugging along.  On the other hand,
>what happens when the display dies in my Orion, just how long TT plans
>to support that part remains to be seen.
>
>Good luck
>
>Robb  NØRU
>Woodland Park, CO
>
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>From: "NL7VL" <neal.laugman@gmail.com>
>Sent: Monday, January 17, 2011 10:53 AM
>To: <tentec@contesting.com>
>Subject: Re: [TenTec] Omni 6 Logic Board Failure
>
>> Don,
>>
>>> This thread makes me nervous as hell.
>>
>> Apparently you aren't the only one ...
>>
>> -- 
>> Neal, NL7VL
>>
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>> On Fri, 14 Jan 2011 15:15:45 -0800
>> "Don Jones" <flash.bang@comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>>>How about anchor lights? This thread makes me nervous as hell.
>>>Glad I hung onto my Sherwood/Drake R-4c.
>>>
>>>Don Jones KO7i
>>>Arlington, WA
>>>
>>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: Barry N1EU [mailto:barry.n1eu@gmail.com]
>>>Sent: Friday, January 14, 2011 5:08 AM
>>>To: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment
>>>Subject: Re: [TenTec] Omni 6 Logic Board Failure
>>>
>>>Yes, but those "boat anchors" are repairable.  I think we need a new
>>>term for more recent radios that can't be repaired and don't weigh
>>>80lbs.
>>>
>>>73, Barry N1EU
>>>
>>>On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 1:00 PM, Walt Amos <waltk8cv4612amos@att.net>
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>> I feel your pain .............. BUT !!
>>>>
>>>> Computers and RADIOS get old and the chip industry has moved on!
>>>> Same for old TV sets!  That is why the term BOAT ANCHORS came into
>>>> use :-) In the process I GOT OLD TOO and this new SMD stuff is now
>>>> beyond my repair skill too!
>>>>
>>>> Walt K8CV Royal Oak, MI.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Neal Laugman" <neal.laugman@gmail.com>
>>>> To: <tentec@contesting.com>
>>>> Sent: Friday, January 14, 2011 4:41 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: [TenTec] Omni 6 Logic Board Failure
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> >> Did they narrow it down to an unobtainable chip, or just ...bad
>>>> >> logic board? Some obsolete chips are hard to find, but
>>>> >> still ...eventually...can be found
>>>> >
>>>> > Agree. I think I'd ask TT to get VERY specific about what part
>>>> > failed - not just say it's a bad  board thinking that sort of
>>>> > reply gets them off the hook. This problem has wider
>>>> > ramifications about company policy in general. (And I should say
>>>> > that I am not sure about which part we are talking about, so my
>>>> > comments are of a general nature.)
>>>> >
>>>> > For instance: It's one thing to say that a rig like a
>>>> > Triton has limited possibilities for final replacement because of
>>>> > obsolete transistors or that it's hard and expensive to find
>>>> > MRF458's for the Corsairs and others and quite another thing to
>>>> > trash an entire radio because of a single failed non-RF chip -
>>>> > IMHO. One need only to look at a VI brochure to see how the rig
>>>> > was marketed (i.e., with a computer ...)
>>>> >
>>>> > TT has always been up front with their engineering and schematics
>>>> > and I wonder if something is changing. I MIGHT understand
>>>> > proprietary issues with custom software are involved, but hey -
>>>> > if I end up having that problem with my VI+ I will guarantee TT
>>>> > an earful :)
>>>> >
>>>> > So if this is the case, why should I abandon my VI+ to purchase a
>>>> > VII only to have the same thing done to me again at some future
>>>> > time? Seems like a good way for a company to loose customers; a
>>>> > company whose followers have almost a religious devotion to them.
>>>> >
>>>> > --
>>>> > Neal, NL7VL
>>>> >
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>>>> > On Thu, 13 Jan 2011 21:22:42 -0500
>>>> > "Dave Edwards" <kd2e@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> >> Did they narrow it down to an unobtainable chip, or just ...bad
>>>> >> logic board? Some obsolete chips are hard to find, but
>>>> >> still ...eventually...can be found!
>>>> >> ....Dave
>>>> >> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> >> From: "Carter" <k8vt@ameritech.net>
>>>> >> To: "Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment" <tentec@contesting.com>
>>>> >> Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2011 7:30 PM
>>>> >> Subject: Re: [TenTec] Omni 6 Logic Board Failure
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >> > On 1/13/2011 5:39 PM, Don Steele wrote:
>>>> >> >>  Well, my Omni 6 is in for repair, and Ten Tec has diagnosed
>>>> >> >> a logic board failure. Due to the unavailable chips, this
>>>> >> >> means a dead radio. I know this isn't the first and wont be
>>>> >> >> the last of these great rigs to suffer this fate. Has anyone
>>>> >> >> out there come up with a fix?? Please reply off line of any
>>>> >> >> solutions.
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > Let me respectfully ask why reply off line? I would think this
>>>> >> > topic would be of general interest to many.
>>>> >> >
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